Do you use the word “trans” when talking about nonbinary people?
The definition of transgender is anyone who identifies with a gender other than the one they were assigned at birth. It is therefore an umbrella term that includes nonbinary genders. Being transgender and transitioning are separate things.
That being said, when people are talking about “trans people” they often mean binary trans people (ie men and women), especially in the current political context.
It’s also not unheard of for some nonbinary people to be uncomfortable with calling themselves trans, presumably for the associations with binary trans people.
Edit: i should clarify, by this I mean transgender definitionally in the abstract. When talking about a specific person’s identity, it just comes down how they identify. If an enby doesn’t identify as trans for any reason, don’t call them trans.
That is decided by each individual non binary person. If they say their trans, that’s valid. If they say they aren’t, also valid. Trans is an intentionally broad community, but never one that requires membership.
idk about trans, but they are gender nonconforming and part of GSM (gender and sexuality minorities).
Yes but this is where certain qualifiers come in. I’ve known nonbinary people for whom all it is is a personal identity. When I talk about trans issues they’re rarely a part of it, because those issues rarely impact them. Inversely I’ve known nonbinary people who’ve had to grapple with getting legal recognition, getting access to surgery and hormones, and all that other stuff. Of course they’re included when I talk about trans issues. At the end of the day, both and everything in between falls under the umbrella, but not all discussions about the umbrella are about everyone under it, and it’s not always worth creating words for different subcategories.
Personally, as an enby, I don’t consider myself trans as such. I have never felt I’ve transitioned, just been whatever I came as. As in my physical and psychological reality matches my identity, though I admit I’m no expert here. My struggles are mostly paperwork, nothing more.
But trans issues, politically, are almost 1:1 same, whatever the real overlap, so there’s no real meaning in the distinction. I don’t want to muddy the waters by claiming to be trans, but whatever I am or am not is neither here or there, when, whatever the answer might be, the issues are almost all shared either way.
And the label doesn’t matter one way or the other. Whatever is most respectful to most everyone, is fine for me, and I don’t have strong feelings one way or the other. But fundamentally I have been blessed, deserved or not, with no need to ever really transition as such.
That’s why you often see gender nonconforming bundled with trans
Complex question.
It’s really based on self identification. But most nb or fluid people I know, including myself, wont consider themselves trans. As most of the times there’s not that “transition”.
But of course many other nb could identify as trans and feel like they are going or has gone through a transition.
For the sake of clarity, it’s best to reserve the term “trans” for people who are interested in altering their body and/or dressing very differently from their birth gender. So for NBs, it’ll depend on your goals.
Nonbinary person here, and yes nb people are trans. You’re transitioning from one gender to another.
Trying to assert otherwise, and playing semantic word games, especially when we’re all being so heavily targeted right now, is reckless and stupid. Whether an individual non-binary person feels a strong connection of the word transgender is their business, but we should all be banding together and meeting the fucking moment. Not atomizing ourselves further
Enby here, too … I’m naturally androgynous, so haven’t transitioned from anything to anything.
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I got my tits hacked off but it was mostly for back pain
Jeez, I got so lucky. After giving birth mine went back down to IBTC levels, I can’t imagine living with big 'uns :-/
How is the flat chested life treating you?
sometimes I wonder if I’ll miss them someday but then I saw an ad the other day for bras that was like our bras fit all shapes!
- too small on top
- too small on the bottom
- too big on the sides
- flat
- pointy
- Long
- lumpy
- point down
- point up
- point out
- point in different directions
and for only $80 per bra!
I’m a little grateful they’re gone after seeing that.
Must suck to need special bras :-/ I think my budget is about 20€ per year for that.
Mostly though, I was wondering if you fall over backwards due to unexpected weight distribution or anything.
Also, are your nipples ok, sensation-wise?
worse oversensitivity actually I think I need to try the TENS on them and see what happens. I have a neuropathic toe I’ve been meaning to do too.
Oh no, my spouse has problems with oversensitive nipples and it’s frustrating for both of us … fingers crossed for some respite if the TENS thingy works for you
You might not have medically transitioned, but surely you socially transitioned in some way. Changed your name and/or pronouns? Altered the way you dress, perhaps?
Framing it like that, what I did was more a case of reverting back to how I presented myself before I became aware of sex
Not necessarily. If someone’s intersex, for example, that could be a cis nonbinary person (if they identify as such).
Likewise you’ve got people who all their life haven’t really felt particularly to the gender binary. Legal stuff might’ve still forced them into a box, though. A common definition is that of people whose gender identity doesn’t overlap with the one assigned at birth.
I personally mostly use trans for people who identify as such; people who desire to change how they express their gender identity, for example. Others might have different ideas about when to use that term or not, but that’s how I view it myself.
Yes, but if they signal that they don’t Identify as such I would stop for them.
Technically, all non-cis are trans, but culturally I don’t think non-binary really fits, I think it is conceptually different frim what most people understand trans to mean.
