I remember a few years ago John Oliver flew to Russia to interview him. He showed him a bunch of vox pop interviews of young people in America asking if they knew who Edward Snowden was and what he did, and almost all of them had no idea.
You could visibly see him die inside after watching it.
I have to belive that most of these quizzes where “reporter” walks around asking questions are fake or just show the stupidest answers.
It has to be so. No way the general populace is that stupid. Please say they are fake.
Edit; Love how many people take their time to comment how obscure Edward Snowden is now, when i meant these quizzes as general.
He has been largely forgotten. Recently we were talking about data collection with my slightly younger gf (21) when I mentioned him. Turns out she never even heard his name. It’s not that she’s stupid or does not care about privacy, he just hasn’t been mentioned in mainstream media for over a decade, nobody makes reels about him on Instagram/tiktok. Tbh I haven seen him mentioned all that often on lemmy too.
With the rise of fascist parties worldwide, and especially here in the EU, and talks of AI, privacy seems to have taken a back seat in mainstream discourse.
No way the general populace is that stupid.
It isn’t an issue of stupidity. Not like “Edward Snowden” is a name you can conjure up from first principles.
He was headline news back in 2008 and now he’s not. Anyone who wasn’t following national news nearly twenty years ago likely won’t be familiar with him. No more than a Millennial is going to know who Daniel Ellsberg or Robert W. Jackson are.
The entire Wikileaks project has been more or less obliterated.
Meh. I saw someone being interviewed who didn’t know who hilter was. Apparently genuine. They even gave hints. When the interviewer told her who he is, she wasn’t even shocked or just having a brain fart. She blamed it on her history teacher…
Ah. The late Aldof Hilter. The failed fascist who turned into decent artist.
I saw someone being interviewed who didn’t know who hilter was. Apparently genuine.
There was a bit that Conan O’Brian used to do back when he had a late-night show. He’d go out and do Man-On-The-Street interviews in… Times Square, I think? Can’t remember if he was LA or NY. But he’d ask some absurdly complex question and get this excellently reasoned and well-thought out answer from randos. And then he’d ask what they did for a living. It was inevitably some NASA engineer or finance professional or other well-educated individual. And they were all just… in the crowd. Because in a city as big as that, of course you’re going to get this extremely mixed bag.
On the flip side, there’s Sailor Socialism, a podcaster and aspiring actress who baited an interview with an InfoWars reporter, in which she was dressed in a sailor fuku, then went viral talking about how she wanted universal health care and liked Bernie Sanders.
Interview twenty people and edit the content down to the one or two who make for good entertainment. It’s a tried-and-true strategy.
Of course, it was all her teacher’s fault and not her being too cool for school to actually pay attention in class.
Why would Oliver do that to him
It’s good TV!
No it’s not
It’s kind of sad. He sacrificed his freedom to let us know about surveillance of the citizenry and we shrugged a little and accepted all the surveillance they could throw at us.
People dont care about their privacy one bit. They want their tiktok brain rot.
Uninstall Instagram? Why I’d never!
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Is the ‘/s’ because you do in fact have instagram installed on your phone?
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All whistleblowers need our support
I should read his book again.
Sounds ok except for living in Russia.
Edward Snowden is a permanent resident and naturalized citizen of Russia, living in Moscow with his wife and two sons. Granted citizenship by President Vladimir Putin in 2022, he remains in exile to avoid prosecution in the US under the Espionage Act. Snowden continues to criticize Russian policy while working in IT and presiding over the Freedom of the Press Foundation
Living in Russia and criticizing russian policy sounds like how those intrusive thoughts about jumping from windows get into your head…
No no, the thoughts intrude by way of bullets into the back of your head, before you jump comrade!
They’ll probably give him some leeway since they’d rather have him living there as a fuck you to the USA and constant reminder of how fucked up the USA is as well.
Snowden continues to criticize Russian policy
I’m totally showing my ignorance here but I’m surprised they let him do that
More valuable openly criticizing the US. He’s American so it is “expected” for him to have Western values. The fact that he hides from the US, but lives in RU with issues is a political win for Putin.
They actually have parties in Russia.
Not the Blue/Red MAGA circlejerk
Snowden should get a fair trial but the US won’t let him argue that his whistleblowing was for the greater good and outweighs state secrecy clauses
Thanks for the update. I didn’t know he had children, but I guess life moves on. I still think it is absolutely shameful that Europe wasn’t and isn’t able to allow Snowden to live in Europe.
Is he active somewhere and posts so one can follow?
Celebrating the singular person most responsible for Trump initially taking power is always weird to see because it is usually by people who you’d presume are Anti-Trump-Putin-Netanyah. I guess if you don’t read further into it other than “he leaked us gubberment secrets cool” he is a cool guy.
could you elaborate on that a bit?
He gave the NSA’s tools of influence and power over the internet to Russia. It is pretty self elaborating is there anything in particular you want to discuss?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections
No, none of that is correct. He exposed the government metadata collection program to the Gaurdian, then the Obama administration revoked his passport while he was changing flights in Russia and he was forced to seek asylum there. There’s no evidence that he gave the Russians any classified materials, and he’s long maintained that the only materials took were shared wirh the Gaurdian.
In fact, your own Wikipedia article that you just shared mentions Snowden exactly once, in a footnote, and it links to an article in which Snowden criticizes Wikileaks for being careless in how it handled the DNC email leaks. The idea that Snowden helped Russia hack the 2016 election is ahistorical nonsense based on recycled intelligence community lies that were adopted by liberals who don’t know the difference between Snowden and Assange.
Ooo great bullshit but I never said anything about hacked I said influence and power then linked to an article about russia’s influence and power.
If you have to make shit up to engage just fuck off seriously what is the point?
You said Snowden, “gave the NSA’s tools of influence and power over the internet to Russia.” This did not happen. There is no evidence he shared anything with the Russian government, he has long denied that he gave the Russian government any of the materials he took with him, and the only people who suggested otherwise are security agency hacks who tried to smear him in 2014. You’re treating old, unsubstantiated accusations of Snowden passing materials to Russia as proof that he materially helped them influence the 2016 election. It’s absolute nonsense.
Wtf is that dude’s reading comprehension? Good on you for debunking him lol.
Well, it’s not the first time I’ve seen this. A lot of the, “but her emails,” crowd weren’t paying attention to the Snowden leaks because it happened under Obama. They conflate Manning, Snowden, and Assange. They don’t know the difference between Wikileaks and the Snowden disclosures. They just remember, “Snowden, hacker, leaks, Russia,” and assume it has something to do wirh Wikileaks publishing the DNC emails that Russia hacked. It’s especially pissing me off right now, given that Congress is trying to quietly pass an extension of FISA, and even though it gives Trump a massive domestic spying tool, there is a bipartisan effort to get it through.
I’ll take the intelligence community over the pinky promise of a traitor any day.
You’ll clearly believe anything, even if you don’t understand it. Explain what you think Snowden did that materially help the Russians? How did a metadata collection program help hack John Podesta’s emails? Or build Russian troll farms? Share one intelligence source that you think made a credible case that Snowden shared information with the Russians.
The entirety of your belief that Snowden helped Russia influence the 2016 election is based on the members of the Senate Intelligence Committee saying, “maybe he shared Intelligence with the Russians, we don’t know,” in 2014. You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.
If what I read at the time is accurate Snowden was not at all selective in what he grabbed and some people probably died because of him.
It’s good you wrote here then, because you are wrong. Snowden wasn’t being specific in what he grabbed, but he closely worked with Glenn Greenwald and The Guardian to publicize what he grabbed. There is a whole Wikipedia article of the release, which makes only one mention of irresponsible disclosure putting an agent at risk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowden_disclosures . Also Snowden himself was demanding agents not be exposed.
Now, who most likely got a lot of agents killed is the leaker in chief, Trump himself.
Thanks, I will check these links out. Based on the comments I was getting I figured I must be way off base on this one.
Glenn Greenwald
Yeah, anyone whose career ends up with a Rumble show is problematic.
I mean Trump requested a top secret list of CIA assets in Russia. Had a “private” meeting with Putin kicking everyone out of the room. A month later 80% of those assets were dead…
Or maybe the government who punishes people for breaking the law shouldn’t break the damn law and put those peoples lives in danger themselves doing so.
Ah the good old regime’s ‘he put brave US operatives in danger’
Interesting, how it’s all turned out to be some kind of deep fsb infiltration campaign for the sake of testing their interception of information and people of great importance. This dude anyway probably was their triple agent or something. Moreover, information received back then still helps them to establish dominance of chinazis and rasians over dtrump and massive part of us intelligence, compromising whole us as a state. Damn shame people are letting some bunch of degenerates like fsb and mss to sorta rule over them.
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