Lol, just as Apple released their lowest cost laptop ever at $600
Not really sure how big of a difference it makes but isn’t the memory on the Neo on the same die as the processor? The A18 Pro is also likely a lot of old binned chips that they’ve been collecting for a year. I wouldn’t be surprises if this completely isolated them from the rising memory costs. Apple really lucked out on the timing of their release. Not that the Neo wouldn’t have been an amazing value regardless either way.
but isn’t the memory on the Neo on the same die as the processor?
Not actually on the same die, but in the same package, stacked on top using TSMC’s Integrated Fan-Out Package on Package (InFO-PoP).
So the memory still needs to be sourced from memory manufacturers, sent to TSMC, and then have TSMC package it all together in a single package. It’s unclear whether they had locked up this supply at pre-AI prices, though. The underlying A18 Pro chip/package was annoinced and launched about 18 months ago, so if they had the manufacturing pipeline set up for that they might have kept the contractual rights to continue buying memory at the old prices.
And it uses literally the same exact hardware as the iPhone 🤣
I honestly feel that’s less of a diss on the Neo and more of a statement on how overpowered phones are now, especially considering the limitations placed on mobile OSes.
Some of the same hardware, yes.
But also - the CPU/GPU in the iPhones are insane.
Compared against a bunch of laptops in the price class from dell, HP, etc and the single-core performance is like 50% higher on the iPhone CPU in the macbook neo.
I can’t wait for more ARM CPUs that hit these specs for a reasonable price.
Those single core performance numbers are entirely benchmaxxed and don’t reflect real world performance or reality at all
EDIT: downvoters in denial. They get better synthetic Geekbench numbers compared to some of the latest desktop x86 processors (“beats” 7950X and “meets” 9950X), but get absolutely smoked by those same processors in real use. Maybe your only use of a computer is running Geekbench idk.
EDIT: downvoters in denial. They get better synthetic Geekbench numbers compared to some of the latest desktop x86 processors (“beats” 7950X and “meets” 9950X), but get absolutely smoked by those same processors in real use. Maybe your only use of a computer is running Geekbench idk.
Where the heck are you getting these results from because there’s absolutely no way these results are real. The M5 Max doesn’t even get anywhere near the 9950X much less the A18 Pro.
That’s exactly my point, yeah. It’s ridiculously benchmaxxed.
A18: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/8650702
9950X: https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/amd-ryzen-9-9950x
7950X: https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/amd-ryzen-9-7950x
Honestly, do people actually treat geekbench results with anything more than a pinch of salt outside of mobile? I thought people at least use Cinebench for this.
I’d guess the downvoters do. The apple fanboys really trying hard to convince themselves that their phone is faster than a 9950X 😂 they’ll cling to anything that feeds the delusion
Not exactly, it’s a binned version. 5 GPU cores instead of the 6 on the iPhone. Still, it’s pretty impressive for what it’s able to do.
Seems you let you bias take over rather than actually knowing why you’re talking about.
Except I’m factually correct.
Your words were correct but not your laughing smug face. You said it like it was some kind of own when really it was complementing iPhone’s.
I’ll hate on all the companies in the world, but I’ll do it based on facts and not allow my bias to make me look like a clown, as it did for you here.
Just try and be better is all I ask, else we may as well go hang around on r/conservative with all the other folk that don’t fact check and have no integrity.
And I’m supposed to be the biased one who looks like a clown?? 🤣
Brother, we aren’t talking about phones, we are talking about laptops. Yes, it is a huge own.
else we may as well go hang around on r/conservative with all the other folk that don’t fact check and have no integrity.
As you’ve admitted, I’m factually correct.
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The laptop is extremely mediocre. I wouldn’t want a laptop made from an Android phone, either.
You got ratio’d on Lemmy
Your one downvote isn’t a ratio…
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let me guess… it’s got less processing power than an iPod Nano.
Looks quite the opposite to be fair
if it can’t run more than 10 active tabs (and a basic program work related program) simultaneously it’s a piece of shit.
i honestly don’t know who these things are for. I’ve never seen anyone using one in person. why the fuck would you put windows on a tablet
Everyone in the Netflix daredevil universe uses it.
Fisk must be a major shareholder in Microslop.
I love my Surface Snapdragon X. Battery life up the wazoo and I use it largely as a thin client to windows and linux systems so it lasts forever.
I did debloat it heavily though.
And someone will probably say why not install Linux on it, to which I say…for everything I use I’ve yet to find a Linux distro that works without hours of custom efforts. I work 7 days a week and don’t have time to dive down rabbit holes every day to fix shit like my mouse, or my bluetooth ear buds, or RDP, or parsec, or nomachine, or wifi.
install the terminal version of claude code and ask it to configure your computer for you. you might think I’m joking until you do this
If ever going to try this, ask to make it a script fully explained, then read it and fully backup before you run.
Yeah…no. I leverage AI tooling daily, but I’m not about to go that far.
ive been using Linux for 20 years. my assumption is that your barrier is tedious linux usability problems.
my suggestion specifically would be to give it research powers and regular non-root access, have it write configs and answer questions about your system, suggest alternative packages to install etc.
Alright, I’ll give this a go on a VM first. If it can solve my RDP-like issues I’ll be supremely happy - but to my knowledge, Linux just doesn’t support such a thing the way I want to use it.
I’ll test this on Ubuntu, Mint, Pop, and Debian to start but let me know if there is a distro you recommend.
i am an extreme fan of arch, even if for no other reason than the AUR
im not sure about rdp but i remember vnc being the cross platform standard years ago. i have a comet wifi kvm giving me access to a mac mini because i need it for certain tools
I had this impression as well, until I had to troubleshoot some problems I was having with the screen. Did not give it root access, but it run a bunch of analysis on the system and within a few minutes it was spitting out configuration files that I just had to copy in the correct directories.
Doing the same myself would have taken me a day on the arch wiki. I’ve been using Linux for years, when I was on X I was editing the Xorg.conf without looking up the documentation. If you know exactly what the problem is, you’ll fix it faster that way. However, if you don’t troubleshoot many systems often it is unlikely that you have a structured approach to identifying the problem. LLMs can be quite organised in doing that.
There was a very weird placement on Supernatural on some episodes with a “tech genius”. Very jarring how forced it was.
I would love to have one as a novelty item for installing Linux on it, I always thought using Linux on touchscreen is super cool. but it’s expensive as fuck
I bought a thinkpad on eBay and it surprised me by being a touch screen version and it just kind of gets in the way you pick up the laptop to move it and you’re clicking the mouse all over the place. i disabled it after drawing about 4 cocks
a friend of mine sold me his semi-new Surface Laptop Go (the original model), and for 400€ it’s a super cool touch screen laptop, using Gnome is super slick, and I am fine to be restricted at 250gb ssd/8gb ram.
but paying it more than double the price would be insane imho
My friends love them. It’s more like a laptop than a tablet and they love using the touchscreen as apart of their PC experience. Battery life needs work, at least the Intel ones that they were using.
I have yet to convert them to Linux. I’m working on it though.
Why would you put it on any computer?
I can think of two reasons, but I can’t think of any for putting it on a tablet
i have only ever seen one of these family of devices, a literal decade ago
I saw one around ten years ago. My boss bought it, used it for a week and bought a new mac.
OS was the main issue for him.
Micro$lop*
But already cost like $1k. I can’t figure why anyone would want one. It’s like they took the worst things about a tablet and the worst things about a laptop and put them together.
MS: How many feet do we have because I LOVE SHOOTING THEM!
Pricing for surfaces was already illogically high, why not add more fuel to the fire?
Do people really buy this trash-teir garbage anymore?
Good thing I’m still not interested in buying one, eh?
Isn’t Microsoft big enough they could just… make more RAM?
They don’t make RAM, there’s only a very few companies that actually make the chips that go into RAM. Micron, SK Hynix, and Samsung basically make up the entire market and they’re not afraid to use that to their advantage.
They’ve been literally convicted of price fixing in the past as a cartel.
I understand they don’t yet. But couldn’t they use this demand to get into that industry? Surely they have the resources.
Dedotated or not dedotated?
But on a serious note, no that would solve problems; they’re doing AI and subscriptions instead.
