Viktor fucking POS Orban steps down with more dignity after 16 years than our own home grown dictator wannabe did after 4. What a timeline to be alive in.
What country are you talking about when you say your home grown dictator?
Likely America
lol, yeah I figured
America: where even our store brand Hitler came from TEMU.
Tbh that was a big surprise, nobody predicted that. Still, happy he did, it will make cleaning house much easier
On the one hand, his ideology is more or less identical to Orban’s (he used to be a Fidesz party member until two tears ago).
On the other hand, he is somewhat EU friendly, supports Ukraine and, most importantly, is the head of a different party. 16 years of Fidesz rule is over. That’s not nothing.
his ideology is more or less identical to Orban’s
Fidesz (Orban):
- Ideology: Christian Nationalism, Illiberalism, Authoritarianism, National Conservatism, Right-wing Populism
- Political position: Far-right
Tisza (Magyar):
- Ideology: Conservative Liberalism, Populism, Pro-Europeanism
- Political position: Centre to centre-right
I’ve heard this angle before, but these parties don’t seem to be in any way identical.
So like a Macron. Not great, but definitely an improvement.
“Conservative liberalism” is an oxymoron. Centre to centre-right means social liberalism and an acceptance/approval of the welfare state.
Conservatism of any kind is right to far-right.
Funnily enough, the wikipedia page for conservative liberalism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_liberalism) lists Fidesz as the prime and only example of Hungarian conservative liberal parties.
What is even funnier to me is that it lists the Swedish party Liberalerna as a “Conservative Liberal” party. That party has voted 100% (not 99% or 98%, exactly identical) to Moderaterna, a conservative party, during this latest four-year period. Nobody is going to vote for them in the upcoming election because they are a fundamentally unnecessary party that just does whatever Moderaterna tells them to do.
Oh fucking please. Fidesz got hammered by corruption scandals in 2024, Magyar dramatically breaks from the party over corruption, and somehow builds a massive nationwide coalition in a matter of months? The Hungarian opposition somehow abandons all its beliefs and rallies around a politician who holds all Orban’s political views?
The term for this is “planned opposition”.
Magyar isn’t Orban’s rival. He’s Orban’s chosen successor.
It’s easy to win an election if you own all the candidates.
And y’all fell for it.
We will see when the vote comes up in the eu to support Ukraine
I really want to tell you how wrong you are, if I didn’t think the same… Let’s hope we are both wrong!
Me: am cautiously and very slightly optimistic while being aware of the fact that Magyar has a lot of similarities to Orban, and that Orban accepts the outcome of the election.
You: You’ve been duped! He’s Orban’s chosen siccessor and you are fully unaware of this!
Like, come on, man. Have some amount of hope in the betterment of the world. I’m not saying that progress under Magyar is a guarantee. I’m saying there is a possibility.
We wrote history today. Amazing victory
Who would had thought it wouldn’t help Orbans case to have JD couchfucker Vance and the Hitler gang beside you. Laughing stuck. It’s almost like Orban had proud in making Hungary a puppet state for russia and china. (USA is a puppet of russia that’s why they aren’t mentioned)
I’ve lived in a couple of countries in Europe and in my experience the American style of Far Right doesn’t really go down well around here, not even in Britain (though that seems to be changing with all the transphobia popping up over there nowadays).
Certainly American Nationalism isn’t welcome and the (pseudo-)religious crap doesn’t land well here either nowadays (it’s funny how in the XXI century the US is the closest to a Theocracy of all Western nations whilst in the rest religiouness has been seriously dampened by Universal Education).
Only the anti-immigration talk goes does well with supporters of the local Far-Right around here.
Further, I suspect that the side-effects of America’s and Israel’s attack on Iran are switching people of from Islamophobia - except perhaps in the UK the local Press just isn’t anywhere as unified in using Manufacturing Consent techniques to spin America and Israel as the good guys fighting the evil “Regime” in Iran, so people seem to be blaming America and Israel for all this shit rather than Iran.
Last but no least, there’s not really any MAGA over here, so from hearing and seeing him talk on TV people have an almost universal opinion of Trump as a disgusting liar because he’s constantly and very obviously contradicting himself and his body language just shouts sleazy asshole and for people without the mindset of constantly coming up with excuses for him of the True Believer, Trump just looks like a slimy shity loudmoth.
Thank god! I hope that’s the last time we see Orban for a very very long time!!
Y’all think the UK will rejoin the EU next?
And Ukraine, while they’re at it.
Well, there’s this story:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/apr/12/britain-single-market-rules-uk-eu-reset
Sure seems like a roundabout way of just… being in the EU.
Are you British, by chance? What’s the mood on Brexit these days?
The Brexit crowd have gone conspicuously silent about it. Their lack of crowing says a lot about it.
Even before Brexit, the tide had turned, and that’s only gotten stronger. Unfortunately, the government had their vote and hammered it through. (The fact there was an EU rule change, on tax transparency, the next day, and would have embarrassed a lot of rich UK toffs had NOTHING to do with the timing)
Unfortunately, the reform party is far too strong, and trying to drag us to the extreme right. Our “left wing” primary party (Labour) is now further right than the conservatives (center right party) traditionally sit.
It’s… frustrating.
That sounds… British. Frustrating, in a frustratingly orderly way.
Outside far-right politics must be making reform look bad in the UK though. Right? Like Hungary, Turkey, whatever’s going in Germany…
We are in a media bubble. Basically all our media is owned by a few rich arseholes and they bury a lot of anti right messages.
The BBC used to be remarkably honest and independent from government. The conservatives getting their claws into it was the beginning of the real problems. Even worse, the BBC’s impartiality has been so sacrosanct that a lot of older people just believe it.
A mild bit of light. The green party seems to also be making significant advances. Labour have often played the “don’t split the left vote” card on them. Now it looks like green is overtaking them in some areas. It just doesn’t show up well in a FPTP voting system.
Ah, moguls + FPTP strike again.
Yeah, I can see Green gaining traction as climate/environmental problems start to grow. The British Isles are relatively sensitive. Though it seems Green has had its own controversy (kinda like the small parties here in the US have).
The UK is still a lot more multi party at the lower levels of government, compared to the US. Unfortunately it’s erring towards the US system, rather than away from it.
Not a Brit. Sorry.
I’m hoping that belarussians get the courage they need from this and finally revolt against their shit of a ruler.
Iceland next. Bog britain still a long shot. Ukraine most likely before BB. EU needs Ukraine. They militiary is probably the most capable in the world against the Russian army, and defense in general. This is why there is no way around accepting Ukraine into EU.
What a great day for Democracy, now hopefully he follows through on his promise of constitutional reform and dismantling the Orban mafia so this can’t happen again.
First things, first: Congratulations to all Hungarians!
As for the rest of Europe, does this mean the other Russian agent, Fico, won’t have anybody covering his back in the EU anymore?
Jail that bastard.
Also:
L bozo
Pro russia israel old orban gone
Pro israel young orban came
