• 9point6@lemmy.world
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    We kinda have two choices:

    Some flavour of socialism where people get what they need for free

    Or

    Turbo-rio-de-janiro style inequality where we all live in slums

    Now the 2nd one is what the ultra rich want and they have a lot of power, so it’s kinda on the rest of us to make the first happen instead

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      “maybe the clothes are made of paper. The food is just nutrient paste…”

      Or something like that from the Expanse. Sure, your needs are met, but living life on basic assistance seems like a nightmare.

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        Another fiction to look at could be Star Trek. Pretty much everything materialistic is free. You study and work not to afford your materialistic needs and wants, but for the joy of doing it.

        And people do build careers and business, for the joy and the achievement of it.

        … just to contrast your idea of badic income meaning barely surviving.

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    I have a suspicion they are focusing on short-term goals, because that is what those people usually do. For example, it’s probably hard to explain who should watch all the ads and buy all the advertised products when Facebook replaces their content and interactions with bot slop. They didn’t think this through. This isn’t some kind of visionary 4D chess. But it does not matter to them. When wasting 80 billion on a VR project that was doomed to fail from the beginning does not matter, nothing does.

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      I purposely “watch” ads because I think it’s funny that me doing it causes company’s to think they work and therefore spend more money, I cannot think of a single thing I bought because of an ad, sure some things I have learned about because of ads but if I bought the product it is because I researched the product and it fit with my expectations, most of the time I buy competitive products because my assessment process asigns negative points for ads that annoy me.

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        What you’re describing is exactly how most ads work. It’s to inundate you with a brand so you want to search it up and likely purchase it. You never bought directly from an ad, but an ad sure as fuck worked on you.

        I’m a former digital marketer. Many ads are meant for brand reach. They’re basically there to ear (mind?) worm you so you’re thinking about the brand. Digital ads can be cheap in niche markets when bidding isn’t forcing up prices due to competition for market share.

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          If buy “worked” you mean “caused me to not buy a product” then you are correct. I have no memory of ever buying a product because of an ad. In fact the ads I see are almost all for products I have no interest in. I get ads for fast food and I haven’t been to any restaurant in 10 years or so. I get ads for feminine hygiene products and I am male. I get ads in Spanish that I’m certain are for great products but I will never know because I don’t speak Spanish. I have even got an ad from a company that makes sand traps for off shore oil rigs.

          To me ads feel like a person is trying to scam me it is the same feeling I get from door to door sales people and agresive sales people in general. The more I see an ad the less likely I am to hold positive feelings for the product.

          I understand that I am nerodivergent and therefore my response to ads is atypical, but it is still my response.

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      For example, it’s probably hard to explain who should watch all the ads and buy all the advertised products when Facebook replaces their content and interactions with bot slop.

      Sam Altman owns a company that provides ‘human verification’

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    Yeah, the “elite” aren’t actually smart enough to figure that out. Elite is kind of an oxymoron.

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      No one asked you to use that word to describe them, why are you perpetuating it?

      They’re not elite, they’re just rich fuckers who attained massive riches by exploiting the workers’ need for survival.

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    It’s not that hard

    Wealth caps. Worldwide. Start at something reasonable, say 10 million

    Anything over that goes 100% tot axes. Nobody has a “right” to more than that, nobody needs more than that. No, you don’t NEED three Lamborghini’s, you don’t need 20 houses.

    Keep everything else the same, just a single rule to make a huge difference

    Governments now will have enough income to fund a huge social net with free education, free healthcare, universal income so that people can spend money to keep the economy running

    People now can choose to do some of the little work left.

    On a side note: fuck these AI clowns for focussing on AI on exactly those tasks that make life worth living instead of focussing on the mundane shit tasks that nobody wants to do. Garbage collection still requires humans yet these shit stains claim that art andusic is now covered. Yay! Now we have shitty AI art and shitty jobs!

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          Yep, can’t do much about that other than vote and write my useless representatives. Taking back what they stole and putting it to work for the masses, to do the grind, that’s something I can do now.

          Peregrine, Snipe, and Kiwi are all available for free on the managed cloud accounts and I’m handing out beta keys for free for a while so please do try them out if you find one that’s useful!

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      Agreed. The promise of AI when I was younger (80s 90s) was it would do all the jobs no one wanted and we as humans could focus on arts, entertainment, and leisure. Somehow along the way those got crossed.

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    It’s just gonna be the same 8 companies passing money between each other. Kinda like the Nvidia/openAI circle jerk. Us peasants will live in company towns, and be paid in company dollars that we can spend to buy food and water, from the company. Don’t worry, they’ll deduct rent straight from our checks.

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      I’ve always been kind of a Balam simp. They at least pretend to be upfront and halfway honorable. Arquebus was always too pretentious. Honestly I’d probably end up in the Dosers anyways. Drugs seems like a reasonable reaction to galaxy spanning corporate overlords.

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      With MechaHitler controlled robots, you will compete with all of the other sharecroppers to pay your robot rental fess with your mechahitler minion’s work’s revenue. If you get rich from this scheme, Musk will increase supply of robots so that more competition to your income stops you from being rich.

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    Thats assuming that complete transition goes unchallenged. I might be misanthropic, but history has shown humans can be fark’n stubborn

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    Rich people mostly. But you can save your camp currency/scrip for a few years and buy some approved shoes or whatever at the work camp store.

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    This is pretty much what the empires in the world war era were asking. They found the answer and it was poor, developing countries.

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    As long as corporations make products they create value where shareholders make money to buy products