They’ve got a quite unusual stove that’s got a large battery in it so that it can operate when the power is off, and doesn’t need the installation of a 240v power connection. This avoids the cost of an electrical retrofit of old apartment buildings, which otherwise costs far more.

If you’ve already got your home wired for 240v, you can get an induction stove for far less.

These battery-equipped stoves are expensive right now because they’re being made in quite small numbers. The parts needed are coming down in price quite rapidly, so I expect to see them sold in the $2000/unit price range within a few years.

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    It’s a lot like electric cars: I get that they’re better but I don’t trust any company to make one that doesn’t do something shitty.

    This is irrational past a certain point however, there is no reason non-electric cars won’t be programmed to do shitty things to?

    This is Xenophobia wrapped up in our emotions around cars, there is little evidence that Electric Vehicles are more vulnerable to being hacked than other kinds of cars, the reason everyone is nervous about this is that “western” car makers are being left in the dust because of their own stupid choices and everyone feels anxious about it. This is how it manifests, a general mistrust in electric vehicles we intuitively seem to have that is a mirage obscuring feelings of insecurity about our own societies.

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      This is irrational past a certain point however, there is no reason non-electric cars won’t be programmed to do shitty things to?

      If you’re comparing new electric cars to new internal-combustion cars, sure. But old internal-combustion cars are a non-enshittified option too, and unfortunately, there’s no such thing as an old [mass-market] electric car.

      If I could have, say, a GM EV1, or a 2001 Ford Ranger EV, or a 2001 Rav4 EV, or something like that (but with the NiMH batteries swapped for modern lithium ones), I’d totally get an EV. But those cars were all low-volume production when they were new, and are surely even harder to get a hold of now.

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      I don’t really want any car made after 2016, and will probably be buying used for the rest of my life unless car companies start acting different.

      Also, it has nothing to do with hacking but thanks for showing you’re a tankie.

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        Ok what does it have to do with?

        Also please define “tankie” for me in your own words thanks :)

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          Data tracking, right to repair, overall build quality, user interface, subscription services, planned obsolescence, and gimmicky features. And you’re exactly right that it applies to every modern car.

          And a tankie is someone who projects xenophobia into a discussion about cars when it wasn’t even mentioned. And also capitalizes it randomly.