T-4hrs from time of post
I’m glad for another moon mission and all, but we should have fuckin shipyards and a sizeable colony there by now, if we we functioning properly.
Yeah, Star Trek is a fun time.
Colony, shipyards, just keep bankrupting the country.
Hi trees, I’m forest! Can I have some more strawmen and ragebait please?
Edit: I can see you’re terminally online so I probably won’t respond again.
Humanity’s first chance to test the effects of the Van Allen belts on a Canadian.
It’ll be hilarious when their pants refuse to stay up and they have to break into the maple syrup they smuggled aboard in their Secret Canadian Pocket.
hearing them say the toilet shut off made me laugh. I guess they can’t take a shit in the rocket capsule for the next 10 days.
Oh no, really had high hopes the Wolowitz Zero-Gravity Waste Disposal System was up to snuff on this launch.
at least they didn’t forget to include filters in certain parts of their spaceship… oh wait… they did 😂
Got to add 3 of them are licensed ham operators!
Unfortunately with Trump being there, this shall not be the greatest launch, for he may plan to use this for his own propaganda campaign.
What then, in my view were the greatest launches? Indeed, when the cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin was launched and Apollo 11 went up, that was a monumentous achievement for mankind.
Unlike the Apollo and space shuttle missions and all who have went before, there is little scientific reason for this launch. It is space politics; all that money could have been used to build homes instead, to improve the general wellbeing of Americans, instead of enriching and entertaining the billionnaire oligarchs’ interests. But that is my own view, I s’pose.
Had Americans’ wellbeing been improved greatly, the FPTP system abolished for proportional representation, and there been no billionnaires and media oligopolies, no conflict of interests, no wars the US was waging… the US might have faced a much more golden age of spacefaring.
This reads as someone who isn’t really that familiar with the aims/goals of Artemis. This about a stepping stone to a lunar base and then ofc to Mars and beyond. There’s a TON we still need to learn about and obstacles to overcome if we’re ever going to make it any further than the moon. Affects of deep space travel on the human body including radiation (check out AVATAR), immune systems, activity/sleep patterns are just a few of the experiments that will be performed. All of these have the potential to have huge impacts on healthcare on Earth as well, just as spaceflight science has in the past. So many technologies we use today came from NASA or spaceflight research. Here is a just a small list. I could go on, theres a large portion of NASA that does Earth-based science (weather/climate change research), but the point is NASA research has long had a positive impact on both our daily lives and economic output.
This is not even to mention, it’s been 50 years of technological change and growth since the last moon trip. This means thousands of new systems and technology that are yet to be tested by humans in deep space. The bigger the goal (Mars etc), the more incremental the testing steps need to be in order to proceed safely.
As for the politics, this isn’t some Blue Origin Jeff Bezos dick rocket going up on a very low suborbital flight just so he could say "i’M aN aStRoNaUt’. This is a program for entirely scientific purposes. You can definitely argue that it is still political, and I don’t disagree. Exploration and especially space exploration has always been inextricably linked with politics. But hell, I’d argue the original moon landing was WAY more political than Artemis; the whole reason the Apollo program had the timeline it did was because we wanted to beat the Soviets to the punch. And compared to the Apollo days, NASA now operates on a shoestring budget if you account for inflation.
I agree there’s a lot the US spends money on that should be going to better the lives of it’s citizens, but NASA funding isn’t one of them imo. As of 2018, NASA funding accounted for only 0.5% of the federal budget. That’s not a lot to take from in comparison to the many other areas where there is bloated federal spending.
Arguably both things can be true at the same time. Whilst I enjoyed watching the launch, not only from a scientific and human endeavour, there was an advert about 20 mins before launch which was unnecessary propaganda talking about US exceptionalism, “best and longest democracy”, manifest destiny themes and lots of other political bullshit that not only is untrue, was totally unnecessary for this next stage of space exploration - and unfortunately, was more similar to that of the 60s propaganda than anything we’ve had in a long time.
I don’t disagree with the grossness of the American exceptionalism propaganda that they always include, but you have to remember they have to get all of their funding from congress and also to a certain extent have to keep the approval of the American people. So honestly a certain amount of patriotism circle jerk is unfortunately to be expected/necessary.
I dunno. Most countries have decent education systems to help prevent the need for self-glorification. Its just weird that your population needs to hear that about themselves. They shouldn’t need to be told, as pride in your country is a feeling. It just shocks me that they still ignore the genocide of the native population, slavery and all the shitty things. It’s a refusal to acknowledge their foundings and white-washing their history. The vision portrayed is a fiction.
If you look at your country and think “meh. It’s okay, could be worse but could a whole heap better” and without resorting to bigoted reasons, you’re doing okay. Anyone who requires blind praise about the country they were fated to be born into seems odd. Maybe it’s just me. But this isn’t really in keeping with the nature of this community so I’ll stop now (though it is psychology so…😃. No, I’ll stop.}
I mean, let’s not pretend that the Space Race of the cold war was not primarily motivated by political reasons. USA and USSR only wanted to go there to prove they had the biggest and the best rockets to blow each other up with.
The scientific advancements that came as a result of that heated competition for supremacy was just a happy little bonus.
I watched the several hours long broadcast and Trump wasn’t mentioned or shown a single time (if he was even there, I don’t know).
Wonder what the orange bastard will say when it burns on reentry due to the faulty heat shield.
Damn really needed this right now. That launch teared me up, felt like a shot of hope right to my frontal cortex. Science and exploration really does bring out the best in all of us.
Spacex puts nasa to shame with their launch streams. They should have spent some money on being broadcast ready instead of having celebrity cameos, what a joke.
