• orioler25@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Strange that I don’t see many Canadians pointing out Canada supporting US imperialism yet again.

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      Canada and the US aren’t just allies, we’re tightly integrated militarily.

      It may look like two separate countries on the political stage, but behind the scenes we operate together. When Canadian personnel are already embedded in command structures in the region, it’s not realistic to expect Canada to fully denounce the conflict

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          It is though: We have about 150 currently in Canada. 69 members of the U.S. air force (Because NORAD), 36 from the navy, 29 from the army, 15 from the Marine Corps, four from the Coast Guard and three from Space Force.

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            It is though

            We do help them militarily, and in return, the US rhetorically does not consider Canada as a sovereign country. So really, there’s no good reason to keep up that alliance, aside from masochism.

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        Oh we already know.

        The OP is pointing out the hypocrisy. We know you fuckwits love sharing war crimes together, but then position yourselves as “polite” with online propaganda.

        It’s only getting more evident to the international audience every passing day.

        Keep it up tho. The world needs to see through the artificial facade you put up. 👌

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          … What artificial facade? Canada has a history as a country of brutal soldiers. For us the Geneva Convention is more of a checklist. We’re very polite: Surrendering Germans got a bullet to the head as a thank you.

          We had such a bad reputation the government shut down the Canadian Airborne Regiment (Our equivalent of the Marines) and pivoted us into a peacekeeping role to change perceptions.

          We have upcoming trade renegotiations, and pissing off the orange turd before they start just isn’t in the cards. We’ll support international efforts in a way that doesn’t piss off our brother to the south.

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            While I certainly don’t agree with decisions, it’s always interesting to see people mix up “polite” with “not absolutely brutal”.

            They clearly haven’t studied the history of the Canadian Corp in WWI. All that (illegal now) ferocity is behind the scenes now, as it should be, but being polite and being a capable war machine are two very different things.

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      Yes, people forget Canada can still diplomatically oppose the war and push for internationally backed de-escalation without condoning the Iranian regime.

      While I feel a lot of contempt and opposition to US imperialism, they’ve pulled the trigger and there’s no going back to how things were. Between expanding Iran-backed militias, international sanctions, and the conflicting goals on nuclear weapons, the status quo before the war was also becoming less tenable long term. And now there’s the question of how to stop this war without leaving a wounded and even more dangerous regime unchecked.

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    When we said that the rules based order was not coming back, we meant that we were personally going to bring it down by supporting wars of aggression.

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    Is Canada a significant net exporter of oil? If it is then this could make a lot of sense from a domestic perspective in a twist the knife on the global economy for profit kind of way.

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    Iran isn’t so much defending itself, as it is establishing consequences for the West by bombing everyone they can in the region (while still holding back to some extent).

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      Business that are “involved in the procurement networks that produce and supply sophisticated technology supporting the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps’ (IRGC’s) weapons production and transfers”. In other words, businesses necessary for Iran to defend itself like any country.

      Add to that from the quick facts at the bottom: “designating Iran as a foreign state supporter of terrorism under the State Immunity Act; the Government of Canada reconfirmed this designation in December 2025”…,are they designating the US or Israel too? Because both have a proven track record.

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        IRGC isn’t for defending Iran, it’s for killing the population that don’t agree with the Government.

        Iranian ‘ICE’ if you will.

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          That’s part of what they do, but they are more than that. I’m not arguing that the Iranian government is democratic or non-tyrannical; however, the IRGC is responsible for more than internal regime stability. They have air, ground, and navy forces, as well as an intelligence arm. They are an integral part of Iran’s defense as a country. You can’t harm or sanction the IRGC without sanctioning Iran itself.

          Sanctioning Iran–and other regimes in the region and in South America–more often than not results in decimating the population and eroding the middle class (which is your best bet for a transition into a democratic government/regime, but the change has to come from within. You’re going to help the regime, not harm it.

          And again, the hypocrisy is flagrant. Israel commits and has committed far more crimes than Iran ever had. From its genocidal inception to and refusal of the Palestinians right of return, to their repeated atrocities before, throughout, and after every war in the region. They’ve always killed civilians and especially children. They are proud of their terroristic ways (e.g. the recent pager attacks in Lebanon). Their “settlers” have always terrorized Palestinians. They openly talk about assassinating enemy leaders.

          Where are the sanctions imposed in response to any of that?

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      Businesses aren’t neutral. German industry was decimated during WW2 because they were essential to Germany’s ability to conduct war. This is no different.