I hope everyone who wants to be on permanent DST experiences an eternity of the first day of spring forward, never rested again

  • zikzak025@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    Daylight Saving Time just needs to be completely eradicated, it makes no sense in the modern day. The problem is that you have this disagreement over “which” time should be the default, either standard time or daylight time (which Canada/the US spend more of the year in than not).

    IMO it should just be standard time, emphasis on the word “standard”. If you want more daylight hours in the evening for events and such, just start things an hour earlier.

    • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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      6 days ago

      It’s also dependent on where you live. Someone living on the easternmost part of a time zone is going to tend to want DST over standard as compared to someone living on the westernmost part. I live in the easternmost part of the Eastern US time zone and I’d pick DST if I had the choice.

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      6 days ago

      Fun fact: in the mid '70s the US attempted to go to full year daylight savings time. It was so hated by everyone that we switched back to switching our clocks after very few years

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        5 days ago

        Because a single news story about a single child being hit by a car on the walk to school was blown out of proportion and played on everyone’s fears. Kids don’t walk to school anymore.

    • merc@sh.itjust.works
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      6 days ago

      Permanent DST would be so stupid.

      What is “noon” or “solar noon” under DST? Solar noon is supposed to be the time when the sun is at its peak. AM and PM come from ante meridiem and post meridiem, which are basically “before the sun’s peak” and “after the sun’s peak”. But, under DST the peak is at approx 1pm. So, will saying “I’ll meet you at noon” still mean 12pm? Probably, but then “solar noon” will be 1pm but “noon” will be 12am?

      If the whole reason behind considering permanent DST that they think the 9-5 schedule of office life is impossible to change? This just reminds me of bad software projects where office politics and middle manager interference meant that rather than fixing the root cause, it was easier just to add tech debt.

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        This just reminds me of bad software projects where office politics and middle manager interference meant that rather than fixing the root cause, it was easier just to add tech debt.

        That’s why we have been continuing to change clocks twice a year, because apparently that’s easier than changing the time children go to school.

        If you’re only argument is “the sun should be directly up at noon” then we are going to need a lot more time zones.

          • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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            4 days ago

            No, let’s do away with all time zones, everyone’s on GMT. Noon stops meaning 12:00 and just means when the sun is directly up in your time zone.

            If that means for you noon is 2AM, you start work at 11PM and are off at 7AM, usually going to bed at 1PM when it’s well and dark out so be it. You don’t have to change your clock when you travel, places just say “Local noon is 8PM”.

            • W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              3 days ago

              No, let’s do away with all currency, everyone’s on gold. $1 stops meaning 100 cents and just means whatever the hell it does in the area you’re in.

              Ask the railroads how not having time zones turned out.

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          5 days ago

          Yeah, arguing definitions vs what’s actually practical is a new one for me in the DST discussion. Just goes to show you that people would rather appear right than do what’s useful.

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      6 days ago

      Non-starter, according to DST sickos they need that extra hour of daylight to be at a higher number on the clock because of all the stuff they do. As if they weren’t sitting on their asses on the couch 99% of the time either way.

      • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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        6 days ago

        I don’t need the sun to come up at 4:30 in the morning during the summer, and I am a pretty skilled runner. I’m just not a morning person.

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          6 days ago

          Then don’t be. It doesn’t change the fact that it’s completely arbitrary when you get up.

            • JcbAzPx@lemmy.world
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              6 days ago

              You could just make the numbers be whatever you want if that’s what you need to feel good about the time.

              • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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                6 days ago

                Again, I don’t get to set my own schedule, they’re determined by these numbers that while arbitrary, are rigid. Drop a kid off an hour late to school every day and have fun explaining that to a truancy officer, or tell your boss you’re leaving work an hour early to catch some sunlight and see how that goes.

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                  6 days ago

                  So drop them off at the same time, but just call it 8 instead of 7. Or is it more important to force everyone else to be on the same arbitrary number as you?

                  • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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                    6 days ago

                    It’s not about the arbitrary number, it’s about where the sun is when that number not dictated by me rolls around.

                  • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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                    5 days ago

                    Seems very important to you that the arbitrary number go the other way instead. Same argument applies.

                    I don’t give a fuck which way it goes, just pick one and stick with it.