If you’re not ready to switch to Linux:
Windows 10 Enterprise IoT is supported until 2032, works great, contains almost no bloat, and is free to download and activate.
You can configure just about anything else you want or need using Chris Titus’ Power Shell Windows Utility.
Rufus is simple and easy to use for extracting the ISO to a USB drive, and has built in options for setting up a local account and automatically disabling telemetry options during installation.
Microslop is rabidly, desperately, sprinting-on-fire towards a closed mobile-style system paradigm, frothing at the mouth and glowing radioactive iridescent green with envy at Apple and Google’s silicon to application device and software ecosystem control. They want you to purchase the edge tensor hardware they need to run and train the LLMs and machine learning algorithms that will be used to analyze everything you do on your computer, perform deep learning recognition on every photo, video, and file on your hard drive, and securely export that model to themselves, advertisers, and the government at a premium, paid for by our tax dollars.
They’re burning down their own company to do it, that’s how bad they want it.
Be warned though that some installers will yell at you for not having a “compatible version of Windows”. Its rare, but some apps don’t like the enterprise editions.
My brother used to use enterprise windows 10 until he started having that vary issue with trying to play COD.
Damn, I guess he can’t play the same game that’s been rereleased annually for 20 years then huh. What a bummer
Iv already started seeing games with older versions of BE and EAC say consumer windows 10 isn’t supported any more and not working.
Trying to stay on windows 10 and be a gamer is quickly going to become a nightmare with more compatibility issues then Linux.
I haven’t experienced this with years of Enterprise use, but back when I was on Win 7 LTSC until its very end, I did get yelled at that my Windows was too old, even if it was still under official support. But then again I suppose devs don’t expect people to try to run games on heart monitors or industrial equipment xd (or whatever else LTSC is intended for)
I’m banking on the world ending before then. Or I get an incurable cancer. Either way, fuck Microsoft.
Or I get an incurable cancer.
So you are planning to upgrade?
I know, right! How can they expect to die from incurable cancer when we’ve got all the world’s compute devoted to curing it?
Damn, a somewhat disenshittified Windows that still has support??
It’s the barest of bones. I use it for one of my consulting machines in the times I’m forced to run windows.
I use W10 Enterprice IoT LTSC for everything. Mainly for gaming. No problems at all, though I play single player games only.
So they’re going to try to get everyone to buy new hardware when there is a shortage of ram and storage and they are ridiculously overpriced.
The timing of this couldn’t be worse.
Pass the popcorn.
“Don’t worry about that, you can just run it in the cloud for an eternal subscription” - Microslop.
Or just spend a couple of months of growing pains slowly switching everything over to Linux and spend all that cash on something fun.
It’s probably apart of their internal strategy.
“Look, the consumer doesn’t want to buy hardware anymore… so let’s make Windows a cloud OS only! Subscription model and all! They’ll love that!”
Foreshadowing: we will hate it and either buy Macs or use Linux.
Me: Using 11 year old PC. Originally rjnning Windows 7. Now running ZorinOS.
I don’t particularly like linux, but…
looks at Windows 10…11…now 12…
Yeah, fuck that dumpster fire.
As long as you are not blasting away on random sites downloading every link you see then you are pretty safe. The old days of a hacker getting into your PC because you forgot to update your firewall are kind of gone.
Wrong on a ton of levels.
You can get infected by drive-by malware. It’s actually quite common. Zero interaction required on your part.
Running an outdated operating system or software like a browser makes you even more susceptible to this
You can, but that doesn’t mean you will. Unless you’re raw dogging your pc fully exposed on the internet there’s no way for malware to go to you, you have to go to it.
You can pick up malware from a website or an advert on a website. You can pick it up by a friend bringing an infected device and attaching it to your home network. You can pick it up from a phishing link or attachment. You can run an IoT device that downloads malware and propagates it to other machines on your network. You can install a dodgy app on your phone. You can run an application that has a chain of dependencies down to some obscure backdoored library (xz). You can run software that downloads automatic updates and whose update server was compromised (Notepad++) or whose signing certificate was compromised. You can be the victim of a sophisticated supply chain attack (SolarWinds was corporate but it could happen to any complex software). Those are just the first few that spring to mind. And you can pick it up because someone else in your family did any one of these things or many others.
Malware isn’t just for people who do obviously dangerous things like downloading cracks and keygens. There are many vectors for it to get in.
I’ve had a Win 7 running for 12 years as a media server, never once been hacked.
ISPs and even old school Win 7 to Win 10 OSs have the old ports blocked by default that prevent “drive-by malware”.
What you are talking about is the equivalent of a Boogeyman that only exists because people are stupid about what they open up or install or allow to control their firewalls. Your points even prove that.
You can open a Netscape browser on Windows 95 and not get hacked. But of course you believe opening a browser opens you wide up so just ignore what I say.
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It’s not paranoia but verifiable fact…
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Modern day threats are not always visible like your computer flashing naughty stuff on your screen or overtaking your computer. Those exists but it’s more about surveillance and control of information.
Especially when companies like Google, Apple and Microsoft are in on it. US and Israel probably already get your files, but if you don’t update, Russia, China, and North Korea will probably will set up shop inside your PC.
Sloperating System
Its not enough for me to see linux do better. Microslop needs to suffer.
They haven’t even gotten everyone into 11 yet. They are tossing out another OS? Seems, dare I say, sloppy.
They’ve always done this. People are still using XP two decades post release, and a decade past it’s EOL.
I’ll take this as a sign to continue converting as many of my friends and family to whichever Linux distro fits them best.
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Good luck with that shit.
I still have clients refusing to buy Office 365 subscriptions and insist on sticking with their old copies of Office 2016. I’d love to see how Microsoft is gonna convince those cheap fucks that this is the correct path forward. This OS is dead.
It may not even be them being cheap, just that most people/organisations not directly tech-focused simply aren’t inclined to update software. Like wearing clothing until it starts to fall apart. That trend is another nail in the coffin
Those folks get left behind. That’s how it works
You can still buy Office 2024 outright. I guess they got rid of professional, but who really wants to use Access?
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/buy/compare-all-microsoft-365-products
There’s also the github scripts which you can use to activate office
I hope one OEM finally buckles and starts selling laptops preconfigured to install and run older versions of Office and such in Wine.
I’d love to see how Microsoft is gonna convince those cheap fucks that this is the correct path forward
I suspect we’re going to see some kind of sweeping compatibility issues in the next few years. Possibly a really ugly virus rips through the business community to scare people into switching.
How can anyone upgrade to a new PC when there is no Ram or hard disks available? This is a crazy time to try to push that.
I think this highlights Microsoft’s inability to connect with its customers even more than the AI and shit.
They really just do not give a shit about the consumer, at all.
Its insane people put up with it on their own personal machines I get for work or whatever.
Microsoft is absolutely fucking deranged just like that freak who’s leading them. Dealing with them as an enterprise customer is a fucking nightmare, their docs suck, their support, which you pay for btw, is adversarial just like their OS. I fucking hate Microsoft in my bones, so I love when I see them doing submental shit like this to themselves
SharePoint is the bane of my existence. Sorry, I can’t find the file you’re looking for because all the files are saved in one folder and fuck you for expecting the filter function to work. I hope you remember the exact filename and enjoy scrolling for 5 minutes.
The best thing about sharepoint is I can hook into PA and automate away most of the annoying parts of it
Never thought I’d miss bill gates, but jesus christ microsoft has been a spiral of awful ideas and terrible implementations since he stepped down.
They replaced their customer sales people with AI. Then AI decides the best use of hardware is on more AI…
The infernal machine devours itself.
Agreed. I think it has gotten worse over time. Operating systems for consumer PCs are a mature market and they don’t really have commercial rivals. It’s Mac, Windows, or Linux and most people never really consider Linux. So, they use Windows to push their other products and not so much as a product in itself.
I’ll be the one to say it: switch to Linux
I guess you’ll just need to convert to proprietary cloud services
Install Linux, Problem Solved.
This is the Year of the Linux Desktop.
I’m trying :( but they don’t work well enough on my stupid machine
Can i flawlessly run Photoshop, mine raft java, FFXIV, steam and all games, Media player classic. Music bee without having to deal with work around and terminal garbage as easy as I can windows? No, I thought so, I’ll come back once I can use the things I use daily without an issue and without having to install 6 different things to make stuff work
Ubuntu is neat the few times I used it though.
Windows is only “easy” because you’re used to it. Coming to it fresh, windows 11 is such a shit show sometimes.
Minecraft works on Linux,
FFXIV works on Linux (it works on the steam deck which runs Linux, so it will work natively just like in windows),
Steam itself works on Linux just the same.
win11 is a shitshow coming from win10
Freedom isn’t for everyone I guess.
I was warned the Linux community would be harsh even if it’s just sarcasm.
We’re a welcoming bunch for those who want to be welcomed lol
I do and don’t. I want the stuff I use to work and I want a seamless transition as is going from android to iPhone or windows to mac. But this is all dependent of what distro I use and what my uses are. Which is what makes Linux so unique and great versus windows having bloatware hell and 3 versions which are all basically identical plus AI slop.
I do and don’t.
Well you can’t have both 1 and 0. And it seems like you are choosing 0.
You have your demands but part of moving to Linux is accepting things will be different. Mostly in a better way, but you’ll also not have everything from your Windows experience. Sitting around waiting for Photoshop to come to Linux, you’ll be sitting until retirement and beyond.
You could always dual boot? Or run Windows in a VM for when you need Photoshop.
I just partitioned my drive thinking I might need windows for occasional tasks. I spend 99% of my time in Linux. I’ve only switched over a few times really just to organize old things. I’ll likely eventually just do away with windows to free up the space. I don’t really spend time in the console and spend less time solving issues in linux than I did in windows. For a lot of things, stuff just works.
Would you also claim the diesel cars are worthless because you can’t use regular gas in them? No, I thought so
Photoshop is trash.
Minecraft works just fine (it’s Java for crying out loud)
Steam works natively. Valve’s most popular hardware device runs Linux.
Media player classic
You want to use a garbage Windows built-in application on Linux?
without having to deal with work around and terminal garbage as easy as I can windows?
Two things here;
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You can get around on Linux without a terminal
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The terminal is king in functionality
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Windows requires a command line for many things also, this isn’t a Linux only thing
If you come to Linux expecting it to work like Windows and run all Windows applications, then you’re setting yourself up for failure with bad-faith expectations.
Photoshop is trash.
Krita is simply great.
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Media player classic is not window Media player. Windows Media player is trash.
Photoshop might be trash (all of Adobe is, greedy little leeches), but it’s what I’ve been using it for like 22 years now and I’ve tried to use gimp but it’s just not the same, same with krita.
I know steam and MC work, I was just listing stuff I use, I think music bee might even have a Linux version, and he’ll Linux might even have something better than Music bee. It usually does for media players.
I never insulted Linux, I have no idea why people act like I do. Maybe me choosing I ubuntu might be insulting, but Linux having 6k options for me to pick is my own choice.
You literally insulted Linux tho…?
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This right here is what’s keeping me from switching to Linux for now. My work PC is also my gaming PC. I need to run Adobe InDesign, Illustrator and Photoshop flawlessly for work, and online games for leisure.
I checked out alternatives, and while Photoshop has a few that are decent, InDesign and Illustrator alternatives are really not there yet for professional use. (Also Adobe programs are reportedly broken af when ran on Wine/etc., and I don’t have 2 GPUs to run them on virtual machine.)
As for gaming, one of my daily driver games is Genshin, and I don’t want to risk getting banned bc I run it via some obscure launcher from GitHub that also makes the game crash on some new releases. Outside of Genshin, according to ProtonDB only 51% my Steam library is Platinum or Gold compatibility, 10% are various levels of broken, and 39% has no Linux support information.
These barriers tend to get dismissed by Linux users, but they do exist, and are probably barriers to others too. With a Windows 10 Enterprise install from massgrave then clamped down with O&O Shutup, I get rid of Microsoft’s bullshit and get an OS that I know can run all of my programs without problems. (At least for the next few years lol, until Win10 ends all support.)
For now, this setup works better for my needs, but I’m eagerly awaiting the time I can finally make the jump to Linux, and I find news like Photoshop installer being able to run on Linux and leaks that Genshin will get released on Steam (hopefully even on Deck) quite promising.
My work PC is also my gaming PC as well, but I’ve been on Linux full time for about 6 years. You do have some of the clear sticking points that won’t work well. Photoshop is probably the only Adobe app that does work well, because there has been such interest for a long time, but the newest versions specifically fight you. I suspect that newer versions (which professionals are usually using) have been intentionally hobbled by Adobe to prevent their use. Genshin Impact is one of the few cases where there is absolutely no work around right now and I honestly have no idea why.
If your steam catalog is anything like mine (read: huge and been around a long time), I wouldn’t focus so much on the percentages from SteamDB. We both know that we’re not going back and playing most of those games from 15+ years that came in bundles :) I went through my games a while back and found that only about 5% of my catalog I would actually consider playing or re-playing wouldn’t work. It does directly come into play when looking at new games to purchase, but the vast majority these days launch as playable or get there shortly after.
Hopefully one day you can escape.
Quite surprised that they are pushing that, seeing as one of the biggest obstacles for Windows 11 getting adopted was that a lot of the existing hardware didn’t support the TPM requirements it put in place.
Doing it again so soon seems like a recipe to make people not want to use 12 at all. After all, Windows 11 works fine for them, why change so soon?
Calling it: win12 will have a thin client cloud hosted SaaS edition, for those who can’t afford new ai-priced hardware.
God it feels good to be Windows free by this point.
Well thats a stupid plan. Microsoft has lost their minds with Windows
For consumer grade yes, I look forward to seeing more people choose anything else (even Apple). For enterprise, lol, they have every Dell or HP house in the world by the balls. Atleast they ensured system admins have more job security (not lime that was in short supply anyway)
Kind of, same assholes trying to replace us with AI.
Not you entirely- they’d just like to replace your currently functioning mind with one that can only regurgitate factual inaccuracies while continuing your subscription.
