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      Doesn’t even have to be fully nationalized, even owning just one national oil company like Petro-Canada was so that profits stay for Canadians and we have freedom to choose to do something like this.

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          For young ones and new Canadians: FYI Petro-Canada was founded as a crown corporation and operated as such until 1991.

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      Why stop at oil, why not forestry, mining, manufacturing, tech, real estate?

      Alberta cant be the only one with their resources being redirected, wouldnt a full socialist utopia in every province be a fairer path?

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          Well its only fair, it makes no sense to specifically target Albertas industries. Its almost like we do have it out for them at that point, and maybe they should separate.

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    It’s war, aimed at causing widespread suffering among civilians. We should be standing up against it. All indications so far are that we won’t do anything.

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        You mean by contacting my elected representative to express my views about the situation and the policy positions I would like her to take wrt this issue? Yes.

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    Canada should send a whole shitload of fuel down to Cuba. Haven’t we been enjoying relatively cheap vacations for decades from this country? It’s time to give back.

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    An interesting historical note is that Nestle has survived and prospered despite American sanctions against it. Nestle products were widely available in Cuba when I visited - about the only ice cream novelties that were available. That’s why you will not see Smarties in an American store.

    However, this may soon be a moot discussion, based on what China does next.

    “China will support Cuba “in the best way possible” as the island grapples with an energy crisis following tougher measures imposed by US President Donald Trump’s administration, a Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson confirmed on Wednesday.”

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3343242/china-vows-do-what-it-can-us-blockade-leaves-cuba-just-weeks-oil

    Apparently, China is very eager to replace the Russian influence in Cuba with a Chinese influence.

    It would be ironic, and perhaps even strategic, if Canada were to team up with China in a humanitarian effort to divert oil to Cuba. Canadian oil shipped to Cuba under a Chinese navy escort? Wouldn’t that shake up the 'New World Order"!!!

    The Law of Unintended Consequences - the more America tries to push its weight around in Latin American countries, the more he pushes them towards China.

    And while these two hegemons battle it out, Canada, as a middle power, skates right down the middle and scores. The opportunities and openings for Canada have never been greater.

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      … if Canada were to team up with China in a humanitarian effort …

      I would agree Canada to send oil to Cuba, but Canada doesn’t need China for this. And China’s own support for Cuba doesn’t reflect ‘humanitarian effort’ but rather an attempt to gain influence in the region. Very much as the US administration, China has no interest in humanitarian assistance, they seek leverage over others to exploit them for their own goals.

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        China can use economical pressure on the usa to allow countries to give aid to Cuba but they are selfish and self centered . Canada who is still selling weapons to the terrorist stste of israel also do it for keeping the fake image of the country wjo always stand for human rights values

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          Being selfish and self-centered is not always a bad thing, as a philosopher will tell you. It does not restrict one from being a philanthropist, if your goal is fame and glory.

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            Look at how many countries the west destroyed in the last few decades. They will continue to destroy everything where China can do business. Chinese selfishness could hurt them in the long term

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              Unfortunately for your position China has the resources and the wealth to build faster than America can destroy it. Look at what China has accomplished in their own country in just the last two decades. Whatever America destroys, China can rebuild ten times over. That is what the ‘other countries’ are beginning to realize, and why they are not really afraid of Trump. What China wants to do in the rest of the world is to raise the world standard of living in order to produce a larger market for Chinese exports. Yes, that is ‘selfish’, but yes, that is beneficial to the other countries. America wanted to keep the other countries impoverished, and to make really cheap goods for the American market. That is ‘selfish’, but also self-destructive. They now realize they have no export market, they do not make anything to export, now that the rest of the world has the money to buy stuff.

              The Chinese make stuff, and also have the entire African market to export it to.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_trading_partners_of_China

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                What China wants to do in the rest of the world is to raise the world standard of living in order to produce a larger market for Chinese exports

                and what the west is doing is to fuel civil wars all over the countries China want to do business with . Rebuilding what the west destroyed takes decades to fix .

                China is selfish because they keep ignoring how serious is the destruction of Iraq, Libya, Syria, Cuba, Venezuela and the attempt to destroy Iran . The policy of non interference may seems smart in short term but not in long term. China should be clear with American do not mess with our business

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                  Whatever the West destroys, China can rebuild in a few years. When Tesla wanted to build cars in China, it took the Chinese exactly one year from no plans and raw ground to the first car coming off the line. China may be selfish, but that selfishness is enshrined in ‘efficient’. China is well aware of the level of destruction in these countries, and is not ignoring it. Read my link. The evidence is clear and unambiguous.

                  China is NOT afraid to send America a very strong message. The two Michaels? Sure they were Canadian, but both had very strong ties to America. One set up the Republican connections with North Korea (Rodman’s visit with Kim), the other carried out (Democrat) George Soros’ plans through the International Crisis Group. Covered both American political parties, so it did not matter what President was in office. Chinese saying: kill the monkey, scare the dragon. Another Chinese saying: Kill with a borrowed knife.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty-Six_Stratagems#%3A~%3Atext=Kill+with+a+borrowed+knife+(借刀殺人%2C+Jiè%2Cto+the+enemy+via+a+third+party.

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        Unfortunately, your viewpoint is a result of Western propaganda, not the actual reality. There is a reason why African nations now seek Chinese investment money instead of American. The Chinese lend the locals the money to build and own their own productivity, leaving the profits with the local owners. The Americans built and kept ownership of the productivity and returned all the profits to America. The Chinese are doing the same thing in Cuba. The goal of the Americans was to suck the wealth out of the world. The goal of the Chinese is to raise the standard of living of the rest of the world so there will be a market for their exports.