What we have called “motorcycles” should actually be called “enginecycles”. Also, the engine on enginecycles is a four-cycle engine.
OP thinking he cracked the code to ride a motorcycle on the sidewalk.
Really? Because I don’t remember pedaling my Honda 750.
I don’t remember pedaling my eBike, either. With a big enough motor, they’re all but completely vestigal.
It’s true that there are different classes of ebikes. Class 3 ebikes with enough power can be basically motorcycles disguised as bikes. Mine is a class 1 and very much a bicycle. If the distinction can be made that some ebikes do not require pedaling and are therefore motorcycles, by extension it is equally valid to say that ALL ebikes must have pedals so all ebikes are bikes. The truth is really somewhere in-between. Not sure how important that is to a shower thought though.
eBikes require pedaling. I don’t know what you had, but it wasn’t an eBike.
Depends on the juridictions. Some countries make pedaling mandatory (mine does), other don’t.
not exactly, a bunch of those Chinese DUI scooters have pedals, but they don’t do anything.
DUI?
Try pumping the gear shift lever and rear brake. It’ll probably do something. Not sure what.
Can we use the same logic for motorscooters?
The Honda Goldwing is a six cylinder outdoor Campervan Winnebago.
Does it smell like a steak and seat 35?
Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts!
It seats ten midgets comfortably.
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Don’t tell that to e-bike fans. They’re very vocal and easily triggered.
And don’t dare suggesting helmets or licenses. They will crucify you.
Ebike fan here. Can confirm. My pitchfork is already out.
This is actually a really good one.
Really unfortunate this classification system has happened. What you’re thinking of is an electric moped, but it’s all getting lumped together. Check this out.
Isn’t it the electric equivalent of a moped?
No. Because you have to pedal.
You don’t on class 3.
Some motorcycles have starter motors, these are hybrids now.
Honda goldwings use the starter motor run backwards and engage to the transmission directly for a reverse gear
My friend said something similar to me a long time ago. I said, General Motors…?
ITT: y’all be taking my random before-bed shit thought way too seriously.
Is an e-scooter a motorcycle?
In Australia at least, e-scooters are classed as ‘personal mobility device’ which is the same classification that motorised wheelchairs are in.
In Germany they have to have a license plate, which means they’re basically treated as mopeds. Ebikes don’t need one.
Huh, I guess that makes sense. I don’t think they fit into any category in Denver, CO. They aren’t allowed on the sidewalks so that makes them a vehicle. But they really aren’t a vehicle and are sort of pedestrians in the road.
Upvote for the thought.
I live in south east asia and motorbikes are the dominant transporation tool here and yes fast e-bikes are absolutely motorbikes. They would be treated here the same way and law wise but the adoption is very low because compared to a motorbike it’s mostly a meme/entertainment vehicle as good ol motorbike is far superior and actually cheaper vehicle.
The difference is in power and control. Ebikes are speed capped. There are two types, pedal assist and throttle control. Pedel assist are ones that only turn on the motor when you are pedaling. Throttle control ebikes are speed capped even more than pedal assist. I think they should be banned because of jailbreaking and it puts you in the mental state of operating a machine rather than pedaling a bike.
Also, the engine on enginecycles is a four-cycle engine.
Electric motorbikes are a thing too.
You can buy e-bikes on amazon that weigh more and travel faster than a Honda Cub, a registerable motorcycle. They’re in Grom territory. This idea, at least in the US market, that they’re fitting into the two classes of safe e-bike is disproven with 30 seconds of observation in any city or adjacent suburb. The only riders pedaling are the leisure riders in parks.
Fortnine has two videos on the topic, one of the 60mph e-bike and one of converting a Cub to EV, making it faster than stock.
Yes you can buy illegal things and break the law. Like really?
Or you’re talking about electric motorbikes, which are not ebikes they are electric motorbikes.
No, I’m talking about non-registerable electric bicycles with pedals as intended by the post. I’m not talking about highway-legal electric motorcycles like Zero. Yes, you can buy illegal vehicles. People do. The laws are not enforced in the US. So if a law bans highway-speed bicycles but no one is around to enforce it and users continually break this unenforced law, then the distinction about the safe versions of e-bikes being woefully slower than regulated motorcycles is moot. The actual e-bike user base has demonstrable overlap with highway-legal motorcycles.
So back to my first point:
Yes you can buy illegal things and break the law. Like really?
JFC.
I just wanna get this straight. OP posited that e-bikes are motorcycles. Your argument is they are not motorcycles because your local ordinances prohibit them.
JFC
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