Sync Ultra is a very reasonable $17 a YEAR. YouTube Premium is reaching that per MONTH. I have sync downloaded and it was the first thing I did. Thanks lj for the beautiful app.
[EDIT: That was a poor comparison, as pointed out in the comments. Leaving it for discussion sake.
There are many counterpoints and actually good discussion happening down below. Even if you don’t agree, thanks for showing me a different perspective!
If you want to support Sync, make sure to support the Lemmy Devs and your instance holders as well!
*This post was made early in the day before the update added the OTP option.]
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First thing I did after opening the app was to look for the Pro (ultra) in-app purchase. But monhtly payments, no thank you.
Same here. I hate subscriptions but would happily buy a Pro version like I did with Sync for Reddit.
Yea, I would gladly pay to remove ads. Like I already did for the Sync for Reddit. Twice. But no one likes subscriptions.
No. !fucksubscriptions@lemmy.world !
I would gladly pay once though.
Yep. As stupid as is sounds, I would pay even higher for a one off purchase.
Welp, there it is, second reasonable response in this thread
The why not just sub for the yearly plan, then immediately cancel - same thing as a one time payment, you get to support the dev, and you don’t have a subscription to worry about
Because then the ads come back after a year. I want no ads for life for a one time fee. Sync for reddit offered that, why not here?
Because one year < forever.
fuck subs…onetime payment every time, but I won’t pay a sub for an app for a service that is free…
I donate to the lemmy instances, but not an app!
I’m right with you. Sync was the only reason I even started using Reddit. I happily paid the onetime fee and I’m more than happy to do it again. If the sub actually covered costs to keep Lemmy-instances running it would be one thing but that’s not the case now. Let’s see how it all paves out.
I mean… Lemmy is free to use, it’s just the sync dev(s) that put in work to make it beautiful. Art is free… But an art exhibit is not.
Idk. Other people have made a good point. $17/yr is not bad. Especially for a team who have always been awesome.
Subbed to lemmy.world Patreon, one time payment for the app. I like having nice things, nice things only come if there’s reward in making them. I’m someone’s reward for doing something nice.
Give me a one-time purchase of like $10-15 and I will, but I don’t do (non-voluntary) subs.
I don’t need any of the push notification services.
Edit: Added within hours. Immediately got it.
I remember going for the largest OTP for Sync quite happily. Might have been £30 or something. Subscription? Nah.
Edit: Looks like the remove ads OTP option has been added so I’ve hopped onto that.
Would you be okay if the one time purchase meant you did not receive any updates to Sync? Or perhaps it only got a few months of updates? That seems fair to me.
No, but I’d be willing to pay years ahead at once for something that I know I’ll be using for longer than that.
Everything has an expiration date anyways, because I don’t live forever. Who knows if we’ll still be using Android 10 years from now. It’s just basically a discount on very long term usage that gives the money ahead of time while taking the gamble that I will actually be using it for longer than the subscription price would be.
Sync for Reddit Pro was 2.99€… I was expecting that much or up to 5€ for Sync for Lemmy… But these prices are just ridiculous. As much as I like Sync I just can’t justify this kind of pricing when there are so many free alternatives without ads and tracking.
Right now I’m using Sync and it’s really nice but it’s not that much better than Jerboa for my use case.
I was paying 12 a year for Lastpass and that at least has uses, now using bitwarden, because it does the same and is free
Hate subscription based models. I wouldnt mind paying one-off but until then sorry sync , I am FOSSing
The one-time IAP is implemented now.
Lmao $100. There are so many other services who’s lifetime is less than that and aren’t just a front end.
This is starting to feel like a pretty disrespectful cash grab. Sync Pro was my Reddit app but it was never a $100 service.
Edit: Ah so there’s tiers now. $20 for ad free as an option too. Meanwhile you get a lesser focused experience because obviously anything worth a damn is going to be Ultra exclusive.
Edit2: Just tried out Connect for Lemmy. Feels really close to Sync with gestures and such. I recommend. I was sitting on Jerboa waiting for Sync, but not with this pricing. And I’m pretty sensitive to server hosters cost. It’s insane instances are out here operating at a loss providing content for these apps and Sync wants use them to charge people to provide a front end.
God damn bro. Its $100. Fuck that , I would rather give that money to a homeless or someone I need than paying it for a stupid app.
It’s $20
It’s 20 dollars.
Then do that? I bet you won’t though.
Why you people getting so salty over some app? Fuck its like android, tesla,Apple fanboys. You guys are better than this BS.
I thinknit’s clear they’re not better than this.
It’s actually my feeling about Sync. Some are fanboys and react like that. Criticism isn’t permitted in this culture.
😃 Let’s gooooooo 💥💥
what is fossing
Checkout Fdroid app store.
i have it
That’s what FOSS means. Free and Open source software
Lots of entitlement here…
Saying someone makes enough in their day job so all their other contributions should be free is…wow.
I guess I’m one of the few that thinks all work should be compensated. Especially work I can’t do myself or that I prefer over others.
And really, it’s not up to me to say what that compensation should be. It’s only my job to decide if the offer is acceptable to me for what I perceive is the benefit over other options.
Because there are other options. But I’m here because I don’t want the other options. I would guess many others are, too.
Totally agree… This person does a shit load of work building and maintaining an app, they sure as hell should get paid for it.
No one says sync for lemmy should be free. Most people just oppose the subscription based model. Also our user data is being sold to data hoarding companies by sync for lemmy. That is extremely conflicting with the open source model of lemmy.
Sync for Lemmy doesn’t have trackers and the one time purchase is $20
Fuck off.
Im not paying you to remove the Ads that you injected into an addless service. Theres a half dozen other Lemmy apps already that dont pull this bullshit. And honestly synch doesnt do anything those apps dont. So other than being a mindless consumer or someone whose easily influenced by these vote manipulation shill posts, why the actual fuck would I spend money on it?
I spent money on it because someone spent the time to make the thing and I like the thing. Should people not get paid for making a thing? Do you only want to have something unpaid volunteers made?
I’ve been involved in open source stuff for decades, and it’s pretty close to dead for user facing things. The biggest reason is that no one can get paid for their efforts.
Should people not get paid for making a thing?
Clearly not an argument made in good faith, but ill bite anyway.
I never said people shouldnt get paid for stuff. Im saying the practice of making a service a worse and then asking people to pay you to undo the things you intentionally put in to make it worse is scummy.
Do you only want to have something unpaid volunteers made?
No, I want a good service, and if my choices are between an app that takes a free service, adds in their own shitty ads then asks you for money to restore it back to its original default quality, and an app that just provides that original default quality without asking me for money, then of course im going to go for the latter. Lemmy and the fediverse as a whole are things people have put time and effort into developing and they dont gimp it to try and sucker people into giving them money, have you spent money on lemmy? Would you be okay if the lemmy.world admins gimped this instance and asked you for money to un-gimp it? Probably not.
Its just a scummy business practice and avoiding it is a big reason WHY im on the fediverse in the first place.
Do you think that app developers can get by without ads? There are three options, with ads, without and give them a few bucks. Take advantage of community volunteers who do free labor.
Sync used to have separate versions, paid no ads, and free with ads. The Google Play Store penalized them for that. I don’t think that would make you happy, though you seem extremely hostile to the notion of people being paid for labor
Yes, because every other lemmy app seems to.
And if people were so willing to give money to these people as they claimed they could have a voluntary donation system no?
So you want option three, to take advantage of donated labor? Basically, as long as you get free stuff, you don’t care.
If you don’t want to give someone money for their time and labor, and you don’t want ads. Just don’t use the thing. You don’t have to be a dick about it alongside.
Now if you want to talk about the merits of Free Software, as in freedom, and how sync doesn’t adhere to that. That I would be more engaged in. But it’s pretty clear that all you want is free stuff made by other people donating their time and effort, with you benefiting.
3/10 concern troll dude. If you want to get a reaction out of people it’s better to not be so obvious about it.
If people didn’t want people to use their apps for free, then they shouldn’t make them for free. However, if I have a free app without ads, why in the hell would I turn to the guy who is asking me to pay for the same thing someone else is offering for free?
Thus was difficult to read. You think the sync developer ‘doesn’t want people use the apps for free’? No, they just want to not starve.
Do you have a job? Do you want to get paid for doing that job? Most people do. I do. If someone came to me and said oh fuck off you want to get PAID for this code? When some open source things also exist? No no no, you can’t, because open source things exist.
I guess it’s a matter of perspective and subjective. I see it as paying back for a decade of practically free Sync experience for Reddit that I absolutely enjoyed, and as such I’m compensating the dev for that. Not saying others should apply the same logic (they shouldn’t). But it being a scummy practice is really up to what posting users interpret as value.
Genuine question, would you feel the same way if there was no ad-supported option and instead was just the paid option?
There is no making the service shittier in this scenario, instead you get the additional layer on top of the base service that the app provides. The value proposition is a different discussion in this case, but the app and developer believe that their tool adds functionality that the base service doesn’t provide and they feel that that functionality is worthy of compensation.
I would feel better about, but I still wouldn’t buy it.
Hear hear! Here here even! Putting ads into a free service, then asking for money as a subscription to remove them. FFS. How can people fall for this? If your app is good, and I like it, I’ll pay. But don’t pull that crap.
Hey man you get my vote!
Adding a subscription too, WTF it’s literally the crappiest business system (on top of creating a problem, ads, and asking money to remove it).
You know 17$ a year is more than giving 10$ to the Lemmy Devs and using a free reader (give 5$ to them too a year and you still win)!
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I’m not saying I’m entitled to anything, I’m not asking for anything. I don’t want to use sync for free, because there are tons of other free lemmy apps as well as the regular Web lemmy that are all free and without ads (I guess all those apps created themselves for free right)
I’m telling the OP to fuck off for making a post commanding people to buy premium time.
Do you think sync devs are entitled because they the actual content from lemmy for free, stuff their own ads in their to make money from it?
Get a grip dude. Throwing a tantrum isn’t going to get me to spend money on that app. Nor respect someone making something worse with ads to try and coerce people into paying for it.
I wouldn’t buy YouTube Premium either and they have significant hosting costs compared to the this app. So do the Lemmy server owners as well.
I think the dev deserves compensation for their app but the asking price is too much, for me anyway.
I’m not comfortable with a subscription model, sorry. I will happily pay for a one-time fee. For the use I do of Lemmy I’ll pay up to €5. If they want to release a new version of the app in, say, 2-3 years down the line and ask for a new fee, I’m fine too.
I’ll wait until Boost releases (it was my default Reddit app) and will choose between Sync, Boost, Summit, and Infinity paid versions.
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It already has a one-time payment option. Try update and look in the settings.
Well, that was fast :)
Anyway, it is €115. That’s way out of my league. I will wait for Boost and see.
Why are people so stingy when it comes to software pricing? I feel like the app store model of $1 apps really killed the general publics idea of the value of software and ended up driving the ad based revenue system a lot.
€5 is all you would pay? Let’s say you use the app one hour per week for two years, you are valuing that at ~0.004¢. that is astronomically low, and is already based off of a pretty low usage rate.
Do you think the app would provide less value to you over 2 years than a single beer at a bar?
At $20 us (I don’t know the cost in euros) and the same usage it puts Sync’s value at a still cheap 0.016¢ (USD)
Even if you only used it once per month over a 2 year period it’s still only about 20 cents each use.
In my opinion a $20 one time fee for an application that I will likely use daily, with a trusted track record and a quality experience is more than fair. That’s the same as a video game I would play for maybe 10 hours or a movie that I will watch once or maybe twice.
I didn’t mean to unload on you specifically, but I see this ‘outrage pricing’ a lot and it irks me.
YouTube Premium pays for Youtube itself and provides a higher payout to the content creators you watch. If you actually want to support the people you watch on Youtube Premium is the best option for that, premium views pay out sometimes 10x as much as ad revenue on videos. It’s the best way to have a good experience and support the people you watch outside of giving them money directly.
Meanwhile, this is like paying some 3rd party website to scrape Youtube and make sure the people you watch don’t see a penny. Since presumably if one of the servers like Lemmy.World breaks down and adds ad’s to offset the astronomical server fees and growth, Sync would block them, if not they are doing a disservice to people who bought ad free.
like paying some 3rd party website to scrape Youtube
A sad day we live in that people see it this way instead of questioning why there’s only one front end application for YouTube. Back in the day it used to be common to have different third party client applications for a backend service.
You’re comparing a service that stores a gajillion gajillions of petabytes to sync?
Thats a good point, but I was referring to payment for a service/software that I use. Ive had the YT family plan since it was called YT Red. I’m very willing to pay for the tools I use.
I don’t need the ultra features. I didn’t even need the pro features. I bought Sync pro for Reddit as a “thank you” to the author. A subscription is a bit different. I would be more willing to spend a couple bucks on each feature release than a subscription.
The app is amazing and I’m not against the Dev just because of what they are charging. They can charge whatever they want, if there is a market willing to pay it’s fine.
But 115€ lifetime is like 10-20 times more than the price I would pay. So as a consumer I’ll just stay with the free version or another Lemmy app.
As a former infinity user, “Infinity for Lemmy” is the one I’m waiting for. I’m also interested in trying Voyager android app once it is released.
Now this “sync for Lemmy” app looks very well probably the best Lemmy app at the moment. Only thing is lacking for me (so far) is to have community icons in the small cards post layout. (So I can identify what’s the topic is about before reading the title).
For the text size I changed base text to Medium and then I changed the specific description and comment relative text size to “Regular”. This gives me the same text size as Infinity, at least in the comments.
I moved to Lemmy because Sync was announced that’s where they were going, but I’m not going to pay a monthly subscription for an app. I expected a reasonable one time payment like I had on Sync for Reddit. If that’s not an option then I’ll have to figure something else out
