This might be the best thing to happen to Americans in a long time and it’s the result of shitty anti consumer US policy 😂 at long last I might be able to buy a Toyota helix
When all you want to do is sell vastly more expensive but quality poor versions of last century’s product, you should be afraid. American automakers have had the government prop up their manufacturing for decades leaving the rest of the world open to create this century’s products.
Oh man…I am American but I yearn for the day when I can buy a pickup with a full bed the size of a Daewoo Lanos
American free market advocates when the market is free:
GOOD
God I fucking hate stealerships. If car dealer cartels in the US as a concept die as a result of this era of idiocy we’re in, that’s a pretty great silver lining.
Want wasn’t it regean that made it a law you couldn’t buy directly from the manufacturer because he was buddies with people who owned major dealerships. And it just stuck since then.
He also imposed an import tax on motorcycles because Harley Davidson was deathly afraid that riders would rush out to purchase a Japanese bike that didn’t drip oil everywhere and reliably starts when you press the button.
Such a weird, American-only practice, like with American health insurance. The whole country is a scam, jeez.
It really is
At least for the last year, the only thing that has tempered Donald’s worst impulses is markets.
So in a way, these kinds of movements and deals are essential to international security.
“It’s bad for our industry, it’s bad for our country, it’s bad for consumers.”
I think they (accidentally, of course) left out the people that it’s worst for.
Once these guys are gone, where are the Better Business Bureaus gonna find smarmy guys in suits?
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Boo mods
I was confused too. This comment doesn’t look too bad but given it’s a 7 hour old account it made several multi-paragraph comments like this in a formulaic outrage-bait kinda way. This comment looks fine but the full comment history is pretty AI like
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Yeah, they’re part of the problem.
We need new instances with better moderation.
Don’t forget their political aspirations!!
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Was gonna say the same thing, evocative
And now a mod removed the comment?! 😔
It’s an AI bot
Huh, well, it made good points anyhow, I guess the one thing it’s decent at is fooling me every now and then lol
This community has an AI bot as a mod?
How many US car manufacturer CEOs endorsed Trump? I’m betting a lot.
Ah, the “American dream”. Competition. Sadly only if it is competition not just lobbying power.
Good.
I see we’re in the "find out’ stage of FAFO. Well all the other industries in the Us are imploding, we might as well do the auto industry too. You auto workers are welcome to pull up a stump in front of this nice flaming trashcan I am warming my hands to.
FAFO.
Xenpeng is the first car to actually copy what’s making tesla the best EVs.
Stay the fuck away from likes of BYD AND XIAOMI.
What did they do?
Why do you think Teslas are the best?
Xiaomi has a lot of issues with batteries and well… Handles. They’re prime reason for flush door handle ban. They’re also basically “overclocked” to reach spec sheet but are built schokingly poorly (people give Tesla crap for this, yet xiaomi gets a free pass?)
BYD is just behind. Tech is outdated, no remote Bluetooth 5.0 entry, no one pedal driving. Very aggressive safety measures which make the car more dangerous on the road. Not as efficient, I also found it to just lie to me on actual usage of its battery… It didn’t add up to what I used during my test drive and where the battery was for it to claim 3.9 kWH/mile
As to why tesla is the best? Nothing in UK currently compares to their cars from 2018. That’s just fact. No other car is as efficient and convenient. My 2021 model is still unbeatable when it comes to features. They have dropped the ball hard yet… Only until Xpeng did anyone start actually doing things Tesla drivers take for granted. I’m Scheduled for test drive and I will compare with my own two eyes as opposed to reading/watching biased reviews.
You can see comments and downvotes here alone, people here hate Tesla, that’s fine. I’m not buying another one from them either. But facts care not about feelings. They’re simply the gold standard we were told to… Ignore and not compare others to? Fuck that.
I could go on for what makes Tesla ahead, but I got a feeling you’re not asking in good faith.
Well Xiaomi also builds phones shittily. But I’m still continuing to use my Redmi.
no remote Bluetooth 5.0 entry,
oh no, how will we survive.
Tesla is not the gold standard. Tesla engineers left en mass early, and some ended up at Lucid, others at Rivian. Both are far better.
Tesla driver interface is dangerous. They have a problem with motor reliability and the batteries are two generations behind CATL’s best. Their 400V architecture is outdated and don’t even start to list the stupidity of the Cybertruck design, and poor QC.
BYD has regenerative braking, they avoided one pedal for safety concerns.
Coincidently, Teslas have the worst crash rates of any manufacturer, last two years. Fool’s gold standard.
That’s just fact
Not really suspension is dog shit & everything is computer.
Most people aren’t Tesla drivers though, my car gets me from A to B when taking public transit would be a pain. Bought a Nissan, smoother ride, all the features I want and physical buttons for everything I touch while driving.
You can see comments and downvotes here alone
Have you considered that it’s because you didn’t actually explain what you like about your Tesla in either your original post or here.
Sure people hate Tesla but your comments don’t give any details on what is good about Tesla, of the 3 EVs i regularly drive/ride in, it’s by far the worst, and one of them is just a pickup truck they put batteries in, but it’s still more comfortable than a Tesla.
It really doesn’t matter why Tesla is superior. “All computer” is not some sort of sin when the “computer” is good. And here lies the duplicity of talking about tesla. Anything that’s worse is “dog shit” and everything that’s leading, is “all computer” and all computer is now bad? Your phone is all computer and has 3 buttons?
No one is ever going to make good faith arguments. Air con in EVs is a lot better than ice, that’s just facts. Good air con is set and forget. So is your wheel position. But you’ll see comments only pointing out how lack of buttons is so bad! Because shit air con requires constant adjustment? I have set my car at 21 degrees. It’s now at 91k miles, I have not touched it because it does what I told it to? Same with wheel position and mirrors, why would I need to adjust them?
I’m not sure what nissan you have that the suspension is that much superior, I have only driven their leaf, didn’t blow me away but I have no other point of reference for Nissan EVs… Is taycan suspension better than model 3? Absolutely. But as a package. Tesla app and “computer” offers features actually used by human owners.
People automatically jump at conclusion I’m shilling tesla. If I did, I would’ve bought highland or juniper. But I haven’t, they’re step down in certain ways, suspension is better (and can be fitted to older models) but other things are a down grade vs pre 2024 model.
But we cannot have an honest conversion because 1. Tesla is apparently the worst 2. Tesla will kill you, car literary sets itself ablaze the moment you enter it and 3. Internet just told us to ignore it.
I test drive cars for fun. I live in a very car dealership heaven, I have driven A LOT of EVs and I’ve yet to find an replacement for my 2021 model 3. As soon as one comes? I’ll buy it. Tesla is on downwards spiral. But I won’t ignore real world experience just because Musk is a Nazi and their cars are no longer an improvement over their existing models. The sooner we collectively accept that, the sooner European brands will get their shit together and the likes of VW group stop selling shit that looks identical to my old 2016 Skoda.
the sooner European brands will get their shit together
Then hyundai…
Hyundai is the example of Korean car I mentioned.
European cars are only now starting to do something. But it’s just the renau plus Dacia and it’s only budget lines for now.
You can get Dacia for £11k, which is great; bit not for me.
all computer is now bad
Always has been, I don’t want to be fumbling around in settings when I’m driving,
I have set my car at 21 degrees. It’s now at 91k miles, I have not touched it because it does what I told it to
Cool story but do you have any friends or family that get in your car and want a different temperature, adjusting AC is a pretty common task for most people. If my dog is in my car i’ll lower it when he starts panting for example.
People automatically jump at conclusion I’m shilling tesla
I mean your saying shit like Tesla is objectively better because it is all computer, when that isn’t what most drivers want.
If you just said you like your Tesla and you like everything being computer, that would be one thing, but you’re insisting that’s it’s better because of the features most people hate but you like and are willing to sacrifice what most people consider more important (suspension & ease of use) so that you get that feature, then claiming all other EVs are worse as if nobody else has used a Tesla and we’re all lying about not liking it.
But we cannot have an honest conversion
If you can’t have a conversation with 1 person, that might be them, but if you can’t have an honest conversation with anyone, the problem is probably you.
You’re putting words in my mouth.
I didn’t say tesla is better because it’s all computer. There’s nothing but hostility coming from your comments, “cool story”, seriously dude? Back to 2009 are we?
I can have this conversation with people in real world, you mean to tell me Lemmy is good representation of public and public perception? If that’s the case. Tesla is already dead, we cured world hunger and trans people are no longer in danger, we did it Lemmy! This place is as much of a hive mind as is reddit or twitter. The same behavior just different opinion.
It’s hilarious that you think Tesla is a good brand.
But he test drives all the cars near his house!
How original. Where were you told to accept mediocre alternatives and PLEASE JUST DO NOT COMPARE OUR CARS TO THE BEST SELLING ONE.
Leave your emotions at the door and we might actually get some improvement and alternatives that aren’t made by fucking China. Right now used model 3 is the best EV anyone can buy. But hey, you go ahead and buy your Volvo or VW and make sure to thumbs up all the people telling you they’re the best!
If you think that I am anti EV, then you are barking up the wrong tree, my Mach-E beats the snot out of most Tesla’s not only in performance but in build quality.
I don’t want to talk down your purchase since you clearly like it. But Mach e isn’t exactly a great representation of how to do EVs.
Their regen is really not right. It’s also really not a good battery system and suffers above average battery degradation. Not 100% sure what went wrong or if the car I drove with 10k was some sort of lemon… But I really did not like it. The screen, the windscreen being so tiny… I give them that, the car was comfortable to sit in but the suspension didn’t impress me, it really swayed a lot in our curvy roads.
I do the same 25 mile trip in every test car. It had worse efficiency than the taycan. Long term reviews seem to align with this experience. How do you find it? I think it has potential but came too early into the market and needs a face lift in order to compete. Hence you don’t see them on the road… I’m genuinely not sure what “performance” you speak of… Because it’s not speed, range or handling. Sure as fuck it ain’t good at charging!
If one buys a Chinese car in Canada, will they have to pay a tariff when registering it in the US?
Edit: spelling
It would cost a fortune to import, assuming der Fuhrer will let you.
I actually haven’t thought about maintenance so it’d probably be a no from the get-go
