I eat white button mushrooms raw, after a quick rinse of the dirt. No problem, as long as I get them from the store, properly cultivated by the shroom experts.
The image posted looks sorta similar, but is not a white button mushroom.
Thanks Google, AI has no fucking business telling anyone about mushrooms.
The image posted looks sorta similar, but is not a white button mushroom.
This mushroom is almost certainly the reason why it’s drilled in so hard that you shouldn’t eat random mushrooms in the woods unless you are absolutely sure it’s safe.
Destroying Angel mushrooms look like puffball mushrooms when they’re initially fruiting, and then grow to look like button mushrooms before they reach full maturity. If you eat one of these you’ll get severe abdominal pain and vomit for around 24 hours and then show signs of recovery. However, by that point it’s almost certainly too late, and organ failure and death is soon to follow
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From my friends who do foraging: you only eat stuff you 1000% know doesn’t have an imitator in the area, and even then you’re tossing out about 3/4 of what you forage just to be safe.
Buy your mushrooms from the store.
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Basically, check the details against known examples.
Things to check:
- shape (both inside and out)
- color (both inside and out)
- gills
- spore pattern
- what it was growing on
- what season you found it
- what location you found it
Ideally, you’ll be with someone that knows the mushrooms in the area and can offer more guidance. And again, if you aren’t 100% sure of the fungus, toss it rather than take a chance.
Don’t take my word as gospel, but see how the stem in the picture looks all angry? The stems are smooth on white buttons. Also in destroying angels, the gills are white, as opposed to brown.
As the great Pratchett wrote: All mushrooms are edible. Some just once.
I guess Gemini used that as base for its answer.
Remember business ethics lol?
I wonder why the person who created the original post didn’t share the prompt? It must be hard to farm engagement when you’re being honest. Here’s what Gemini actually says:
Different prompts yield different results
I’ve noticed that when you tell AI some lie and that it’s true, it will generally just go with what you’re saying.
If I say I’m a god, AI likely will just go with it and in no time support my delusional thoughts.
Not this particular example, but I’ve had multiple results where AI gave me the wrong answer because I told it something incorrect prior.
If I were to tell AI that I found a yummie button mushroom, then the picture, there is a good chance it would respond like in this example
Part of the problem here is that AI is mostly done by companies with billions of investments and in turn they NEEEEEDDDDD engagement, so they all made their AI as agreeable as possible just so people would like it and stay, with results like these becoming much more “normal” than it should or could be
Part of the problem here is that AI is mostly done by companies with billions of investments and in turn they NEEEEEDDDDD engagement, so they all made their AI as agreeable as possible just so people would like it and stay, with results like these becoming much more “normal” than it should or could be
I wonder how much of that is intentional vs a byproduct of their training pipeline. I didn’t keep up with everything (and those companies became more and more secretive as time went on), but iirc for GPT 3.5 and 4 they used human judges to judge responses. Then they trained a judge model that learns to sort a list of possible answers to a question the same way the human judges would.
If that model learned that agreeing answers were on average more highly rated by the human judges, then that would be reflected in its orderings. This then makes the LLM more and more likely to go along with whatever the user throws at it as this training/fine-tuning goes on. Instead of the judges liking agreeing answers more on average, it could even be a training set balance issue, where there simply were more agreeing than disagreeing possible answers. A dataset imbalanced that way has a good chance of introducing a bias towards agreeing answers into the judge model. The judge model would then pass that bias onto the GPT model it is used for to train.
Pure speculation time: since ChatGPT often produces two answers and asks the user which one the user prefers, I can only assume that the user in that case is taking the mantle of those human judges. It’s unsurprising that the average GenAI user prefers to be agreed with. So that’s also a very plausible source for that bias.
The post is delicious though. But I agree, AI is safer to use than some people make it appear.
Remember, everything you see on the internet is true and should be taken at face value
That bastard right there is why I don’t pick white mushrooms.
What is it and how do I avoid it?
@Godort@lemmy.ca mentioned it in another reply in this post. It’s a Destroying Angel Mushroom. you usually avoid mushrooms like that by only foraging those who have no simulacrae and buying the other mushrooms in the store, or by intensely studying the differences and hoping you are lucky this time.
That’s a very metal name for a mushroom
If you want to get into foraging, spend a year or more going foraging and only taking pictures. It’s a lot of fun to find a new species that you haven’t found before. You’ll also get familiarized with your local ecosystem. Never eat any mushroom without a positive ID. AI can give you a starting point for identification, but not a positive ID. https://mushroomexpert.com/ is a very up to date resource for getting a positive ID
Also, if you are a beginner, don’t pick white mushrooms. Just learn to identify couple easily differentiated local species and pick those, then later add one and one and so on. Don’t blindly trust internet as your source either; the mushrooms from different continents can look the same but be very different. Get a new edition of some mushroom book written in your country
As a forager, I live in the middle of a forest, I do hunt mushrooms for myself, I even have shaggy manes that grow wild in my yard. There are tasty and safe ones out there to find in season. It’s something even people who live in a city can do. Parks hold some very interesting free foods if you know what you’re looking at.
BUT, you better learn from a local expert who has been hunting locally for years. They know hat grows locally and how to identify them. Using your phone or a book is helpful, but never definitive. Pictures can lie. And even then, there can be a tiny risk.
Pollution and contamination makes basically anything in a city unsafe to eat long-term
Using LLMs for anything that can kill you is definitely Darwin Award material. I mean, everybody knows they hallucinate, right?
You remember that time when a website would give such blatant false and dangerous information that it could be sued?
Pepperidge farm remembers…
This has potential as a story/comic/movie:
Most knowledge has been lost in the post-Apocalyptic world. Google doesn’t exist. Books are destroyed. The only thing that remains is a local hosted llm model you have running on solar power.
Kevin: “Hey, what’s this mushroom I managed to forage? It kinda looks like a button mushroom.”
AI: "Hello! Very observant of you! This mushroom IS of the button variety. Their nutritional value is above average for a mushroom. Would you like me to provide you some recipes that incorporate buttons mushrooms? "
Randal: shouts from across the room "Kevin! How many times have I told you to stop wasting our energy with that stupid thing. "
Kevin: "Yeah but we could be eating really well tonight. "
Randal: sighs “the last time you listened to that thing’s cooking advice I had the runs for days”
Does it really liquify your liver though? Curious how it would do this.
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Number one reason I won’t eat mushrooms in spaghetti sauce
