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It’s very similar to how a lot of Americans didn’t know about the Tulsa Race Massacre until it was in The Watchmen.
Where I live they ran an interstate highway right through where the black business district was. Ripped through the middle of town. I hate that highway so much, they keep adding lanes too. Fucking racist twats and the effects reverberate to this day, no transit just more lanes because of handshake agreements between good ol’ boys in the 1960s.
“Nothing changes, even when it wants to” Hayes Carll
People will see your comment and think “hey that sounds like my city”, but you could say this about basically every major city in the US.
This is part of what’s called redlining.
To offer a refinement, if I can, redlining is adjacent to this highway abuse, so, easy to join them; same racially driven bastardry, different technique.
Redlining was a real estate / financial tool that kept certain homes on a map from having access to resources. Sort of like financial gerrymandering. It’s kinda cool, in a privileged way, to see a city’s ghetto map and a redlined map overlaid; there is little difference.
Anyway, I couldn’t find a term for this neighborhood wrecking highway practice, but did find this article that goes into detail and links the book Dividing by Design.
The Roads That Tear Communities Apart https://share.google/6G6B8K9VNck1Cb0ZW
One more: I thought redlining also conveyed purposeful impediments to black home ownership, like in the refusal of mortgage applications.
- There were communities in suburbs built and federal funded that included racial exclusion provisions.
Ayo Magwood has pulled together a great amount of information about the topic. Recently, she seems to have shifted to economic inequality driving many of the issues that were once, like all the years before the last 5 or so, primarily racial.
Structural Racism — Uprooting Inequity https://share.google/1A6sgjkI0UOwpFxeO
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Or Tulsa, where the whites were like “go make your own black town!” So they did, and prospered while the whites stayed poor. So the whites just straight up raped, pillaged and burned the black town and got away with it
Not just the local whites, the government bombed and shot them.
Worse part of The Tulsa Race Massacre is it took fucking tv show for it to become widely known. My wife and ex wife grew up here never heard of it. Not fucking once had it been taught in schools. Now the local media talks about it constantly. But only because it had been exposed by the HBO show Watchman. Fucking racist fucks all around.
And for Latinx people in LA it is being evicted from their homes to make Dodger Stadium
Wtf is Latinx? Do you mean Latinos, as is the preferred term of the Latino community and not some BS made up word by white people with a savior complex?
The term being a creation of white people is a common but mistaken belief. Latinx is a gender neutral version of Latino/Latina created by English-speaking queer Latinx people in the early 2000s who hated that the inherent gender binary in the Spanish language couldn’t properly represent Latinx people who didn’t identify as Latinos or Latinas. It’s since become an inclusive catch-all term for the entire community, regardless of gender identity.
Also, I don’t know if you’re intending it to come off that way, but your reaction to the term is a very common one among homophobic Latinos.
They might have meant “Latino” based on their user name. I dunno. /s
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To be fair if highschool history covered every act of overtime racism and suppression committed by the US government there would be no time to cover anything else.
So?
Where are you from?
https://www.latimes.com/projects/us-freeway-highway-expansion-black-latino-communities/
Still happening to this day. This is in Houston 5 years ago.
Austin wiped out the lower income families for lofts.
It happened quite frequently, for instance when constructing the Dan Ryan Expressway in Chicago. Somehow it’s always easiest to demolish vibrant black neighborhoods.
Somehow yeah
The reason traffic is so bad out to Jones Beach on Long Island is because they built the roads so buses couldn’t go. Black people rarely had cars at the time.
Lake Lanier in Georgia too, under that reservoir was Oscarville.
I375 in Detroit
From the Wikipedia page
A newspaper account at the time suggested that Seneca Village would “not be forgotten”
Then later
The settlement was largely forgotten for more than a century after its demolition.
Also just kinda interesting that one of the residents was named Edward Snowden.
Nah, time travel and transrace!
Holy fuck I was not prepared for the sheer amount of similar events described in the comments. It’s is almost as if racist people are inferior human beings, unable to understand empathy. Hen and egg problem, I guess. But yeah, w.r.t. structural racism, a Zager & Evans verse comes to mind: “[…] or tear it down - and start again.”
It’s always been this way. Really dumb fucks ruin everything. And the meme of racism simply won’t die as long as there are dumb, gullible shitheads that gobble it up. Humanity exists on a bell curve, and the smart enough people on the top end of the curve basically fight each other for the right to manipulate the idiots for their own selfishness. Racism is an easy meme and extremely virulent among religious. The actually smart people have better things to do and have no interest in all this stupid shit. Humanity is so fucking disappointing. A bunch of stupid fucking apes with nukes.
[…] the smart enough people on the top end of the curve basically fight each other for the right to manipulate the idiots for their own selfishness. […] The actually smart people have better things to do and have no interest in all this stupid shit.
I was going to object to your first bit, but then you objected yourself. Did you notice the contradiction? :p
I would argue that the people trying to manipulate others are not “the smart ones” but a certain level of intellect is the tool you need to act out your psychopathic/sociopathic tendencies, which are actually what triggers the desire to manipulate others.
haha, you’re right. The nuance you add about certain level of intellect is a good addition and it was my intent to communicate that.
That said, most manipulators still look like borderline retarded from my perspective. And there are people way smarter than myself :)
Should have seen my face when re-watching The Pitt, getting to the part of the pacemaker/first paramedics arc. Opening wikipedia and being blown away by what I learnt.
But no, let’s keep the fact that “black people invented peanut butter” as the cool fact. Not “black people helped standardise first aid”…
Do you mean The Knick?
Well, add that to my watch list. But The Pitt is a modern medical drama in the ER. 15 episodes covering a 15 hour shift, edited to close to real time. Season 2 is steaming now
Sorry yeah, I thought you might be talking about the knick because the Pitt is so recent and you’re doing a rewatch
To add to y’all’s reading list:
Dulles Airport (the big international airport that serves Washington DC and Northern Virginia) did the same: https://travelnoire.com/town-destroyed-international-airport
Also, maybe tangentially related, The Tulsa Race Massacre: https://www.okhistory.org/publications/enc/entry?entry=TU013
Plus the interstate system specifically chose to go right through black neighborhoods if they could
This is currently happening, right now, in Knoxville, Tennessee and Nashville, Tennessee
This is what happened in Hartford CT. Fucking ugliest, shit city I’ve ever been to. They ruined the whole fucking city because, racism. I believe the highway was built sometime in the 50s/60s and it’s still a plague on the city.
And this one
And let us not forget the Vanport flood, which the Portland authorities downplayed for decades and used as an excuse to pave over a vibrant community to make a raceway and a golf course. They only recently admitted that there was ‘some’ loss of life.
I grew up a block away from Seneca village and only found out about it as an adult when they put up signage in the park telling its story.
The Gateway Arch National Park in St. Louis was also a black community that got bulldozed. Unsurprisingly common
The USA has always been hostile to non-white people.
Shit, they were hostile to the wrong kind of white people for most of the time as well…
Body Count - No Lives Matter is a good song that shows poor white people were just the last step.
But they’ve fixed the issue of discrimination by now being hostile to everyone.
Improvement? Idk, but it’s certainly more equitable.
Look at this administration being all progressive and shit. They must have thought, hey, look, we shouldn’t just be horrible to brown people, that’s not a fair or just society.
Just about everywhere in the US was taken from someone. And almost always a marginalized individual. All the way back to the native americans. It how human be human apparently.
Not “just about” everywhere in America, literally the whole country was taken from someone.
Probably Europe too. It just played out over a longer time, which made it less pronounced, and more forgotten.
The more recent the theft the more it features in our indignation. Palestine > Americas > Europe.
This doesn’t mean by the way that what happened in the Americas or Palestine is any less bad. Colonizers are eager to say: “look it happened before, look it happens elsewhere.” But fuck them.
In fact it makes their crimes worse. Every time lessons are not learned the responsibility increases.
It only strengthens the case for the universal fight to redistribute what had been stolen.
Thieves, murderers and rapists. Absolute scum of the earth. They must be fully ostracized.
“My country’s history is one of manufactured suffering. I was a boy when the Tudors burned any food the rebels under O’Neal might think to eat. We starved, everyone starved. Mouths on the dead stained green from chewing nettles. You get resourceful in a famine. My parents died early. Left me and my sister catching rats. The rats ran out quick. Fed my sister on my blood. It kept her alive an extra…two weeks. I didn’t sleep for three days to protect her body from the starving till the ground thawed. I cut out her kidneys and buried her. Fat cap on them like a pea. I haven’t eaten a single meal since, my mind didn’t go to that bite. It was the last thing I ever did because I had to. I control my life now. Every bite.”
-Abijah Fowler in Blue Eye Samurai
Also, later in the show:
That first line has stuck with me though since I first heard it. “My country’s history is one of manufactured suffering.” That could be about any country in the world, and it would still ring true in some form or another. The worst monsters to ever walk this planet have all been human.
It may rightly be how those humans were. We can be different.
When do we think we can say we knew better?
I’ll let you know if we ever get there.
