I see a lot of piefed posts on Lemmy - are we not federated across so that we’re getting the milk without needing to buy the cow?

I have no idea. I’m a vanilla, semi-norm who came from Reddit, mainly because they banned me after 15 years of active and mostly chill engagement.

I’m basically just a slightly opinionated guy who’s interested in what other people have to say on a variety of subjects.

I’m only dimly aware of PieFeed. I like lemmy as it feels like early Reddit and I access it through the boost app on Android, which was the peak Reddit experience before they locked down the APIs.

I’ve no interest in spreading myself over multiple platforms - I just want access to other humans via the path of least resistance.

With this in mind, is PieFace better? And if so, in what way?

Piefed has some neat features unique to it, such as:

• a very nice gallery view for image heavy communities.
• the ability to combine comments from multiple communities under one post, if the same link was posted to all of them. You can see an example of that here (notice how the comments have dividers for each community).
• the ability to create and subscribe to a pre-made list of communities, sorta like a multi-reddit.

On the sysadmin side of things, it’d bring some nice advantages regarding network resource usage and page loading speed, and benefits from using tried and tested industry standard frameworks (I.e, Flask), instead of bespoke solutions.

Lemmy is established, having existed very long before. But also they work together. So unless you have some major issue there’s no real reason to up and switch.

Having two softwares actually contributes to the decentralizing of the fediverse IMO, as long as we don’t devolve into tribalism and attacks between the two that deter new users…

IMO they’re both good and deserve our weight, I do think they can work off each other.

I use Lemmy because their mobile app support is much better and Jerboa (the Lemmy maintainers’ app) has everything I need and not a single bit more. I think it would be great for Piefed to get more app support.

There are a lot of features that I think Lemmy can benefit from emulating from Piefed, like the option to show comments from crossposted threads, filters, and more granular moderation capability. I heard Piefed is a lot lighter on resources, so if I were to self-host I might use that one. Also I have no idea how many of Lemmy’s shortcomings are due to be addressed in their planned 1.0 release.

Lemmy development is slow whereas Piefed is a bit faster, I think each is great in their own right. Not everyone agrees with me here, but I think the Lemmy developers do a good job keeping their personal beliefs to their own instance, rather than let it infiltrate the code base. Same with Piefed. I think the development of both should be encouraged rather than trying to find rifts and making it a team sport.

Hardcoded censorship is a no no

we should make a new one and then make a new one again so that the community is split into smaller and smaller pieces with less users and the whole fediverse thing can be less interesting overall

A huge minus of reddit was the heavy skew in politics to the right due to US influence.

I am obviously not going to switch away from Lemmy because there are communists here. That’s without knowing that piefed by default defederates communities for being communist.

PieFed, which i used first, is harder to navigate. It seems to have blocked a lot of content from other instances and i’m not sure why

I like both. The main thing keeping me from using piefed is it’s atrocious image viewer though. I like how Lemmy just spits out the image when you click the thumbnail.

staring at Pixelfed So uh, not this, then? There’s another thing?

The number one issue with the fediverse in general is the tiny stagnant user base. Everything else is way too insignificant to matter. People could make as many fediverse platforms as they want, it doesn’t mean anything if nobody is using them.

I’m on Lemmy (db0) because, at the time, I thought PieFed was just another instance, and I chose the instance I liked best without much thought behind what software it ran.

db0 has talked about spinning up a PieFed instance, but I would have to join it and I’d have two accounts. I’m not sure I want to manage two accounts. AFAIK they are not talking about converting to PieFed (if such a thing is possible).

On the tech side, the two mostly federate with one another. I (maybe mistakenly) called out a PieFed user for not posting a link. They thought they did. And they did — it was visible on PieFed, but it was not visible to Lemmy. So they apologised and posted the link in the body of their text, and I apologised for not understanding how things worked. So that is an issue Lemmy (the people who make the software) would have to address, and then db0 would have to update the code on their server (I believe).

So I think as long as they continue to federate to one another, it’s fine to just use what you want. If one starts to pull ahead and the other is not catching up, it might be wise to switch, especially if there is a way to pull all your subscriptions, blocks, and managed communities from one to the other.

I have no idea about the ethics of using either.

As soon as I can microblog straight to my own profile I’m sold. On mbin I had to make an admin only magazine for my microblogs to all be in one place.

Since the Lemmy devs are awful, an alternative isn’t a bad idea (although the Lemmy design itself makes it less bad for Lemmy than it would be for a centralized service).

From a technical perspective, it’s definitely sad to use this kind of service provided by Python instead of Rust (even if I like and use both languages).