Summary: Republicans are 50/50, everyone else is strongly opposed.
75% is an awfully low number.
25% of people being propagandised beyond reason is a high number, yes.
Hitting 75% agreement in US politics is honestly unusual today, so I think it’s a good sign that Trump has domestic opposition on this one
25% is a huge tipping point for social dynamics.
If he loses just a little more support the whole MAGA movement will begin to unravel.
People are made vulnerable to their idol going haywire - by the need to rationalize having supported him. Thus the 50% of Republicans who bluescreened with “great leader always correct”. If they have time to read up on the issue, it will drop a bit.
You could probably poll 10,000 random Americans and find about 25% that would be in favor of eating lightbulbs and severing diplomatic ties with the magical land of Oz. That bottom 25% of Americans has got some real issues.
Polls are the most reliable way to be disappointed in humanity.
As an American, the fact that 25% are for it or indifferent is a shameful number…
We don’t have the right to judge we unleashed this evil pedofile on this planet
70% of Americans approve of higher minimum wage and universal health care, too.
It doesn’t matter.
Jesus Christ I had some hints that Republicans would be coming to their senses, but fucking 50/50?!? These people are fucking lost, too far gone. They are beyond normal legal or democratic avenues. This is a violent, fascist authoritarian cult, and they need to be stopped.
If they don’t change their minds when their country threatens real hostilities against former allies, then they will not be swayed by anything except force, combined with real, uncompromising economic destruction.
Americans will need a general strike and armed protests at this point.
They love authoritarianism, more than they love other people, democracy, anything. There’s a certain amount of neural wiring involved, as people lean into it, their amygdala grows larger and their fear of “others” and “chaos” intensifies.
When I saw my mom posting a fundraiser for the Ice murderer’s family last week, I realized a cop could beat me to death in front of her, and she’d tend to his bruised knuckles in apology. That was the very last straw, I don’t know her anymore.
Yeah David Frum famously wrote “If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.”
He’s a former neocon Bush speechwriter and an ardent anti-Trumper. He would know.
I’ve seen enough of the die hard maga folks talk that I see why authoritarianism appeals. It’s annoying to think and if someone just simplifies the world for them, they find that much more appealing.
To scrutinize the actions of their leader is just too much work, so they just slip into the comfortable position of “this is my guy, I agree with whatever he says, even if I were to be even vaguely at odds with him, is just because he is better than me and accepting whatever is just the right call”
That’s the distrust I think about every day, too. That so many would sell their families out for nothing.
Alternative perspective, for what it’s worth:
50/50 is actually comparatively huge. Considering everything else has been 90/10.
The first departure from your god-king is always the hardest. I expect for many, this is the first break, and will make any subsequent break mentally easier.
Also keep in mind that people who identify/lean Republican has taken a little more than a 10% haircut since January 2025. Any “republicans say” is an increasingly smaller subset of the total voting population… getting more concentratedly nuts as they boil off the more rational ones. Even with this more concentrated version of Republicans, it’s STILL not popular.
Don’t get me wrong, it’s not GREAT… but there is a trend line. It’s not moving as fast as it should, but it IS moving.
Republicans have come to their senses. They’re not in denial anymore, they realized they’re evil and they love it.
It’s not even former allies. Denmark is a current ally according to treaties that are signed into US law. Sure the US is effectively no longer part of NATO but all of the official reasons for invading Greenland could be accomplished by Trump admitting some agreements made by past Presidents were actually good.
This is all because one deranged old child molester wants to put his name on the map and a whole bunch of people are too gutless to admit that’s what’s going on.
I’ll be generous for a second and presume that the vast majority of Magas are racist but not directly evil, so to speak, just naive, dumb, and brainwashed by decades of poor education and fox news
Either way, once this is over I’d happily vote for taking away voting rights from anyone Republican. Not for being evil, but for being too dumb to be able to vote
I disagree. Anyone should be allowed to vote. But I’d happily support mandatory civics classes to be able to do so, where you actually have to pass to get your voter registration number.
The problem is such tests always become politicized.
Hey look, the “civics” lessons in the South are oddly favoring conservative talking points…
Historically tests for voting competency have not been to ensure educated voters, but to disenfranchise groups. You don’t want to open that door.
Most people : don’t do it
Government leaders: don’t do it
Business: don’t do it
Academics: don’t do it
All other countries and states in the world: don’t do it
Trump: I’m gonna do it.
It’s not only trump, that’s the sad thing. Trump is just a puppet, controlled by people behind the curtains. Look at this project 2025. There are plenty of powerful people who are pulling the strings of Trump and the next Republican candidate.
Long gone are the days when politicians were actually working for their voters. Now it is all about social media propaganda. And guess what, making education unaffordable works wonders for those people. They don’t want rational human beings, they just want easy to control and manipulate sheep.
“And just like that, everything changed. At that terrible moment, in our hearts, we knew. Home was a pen. Humanity, cattle.”
And the other 25% are straight up Nazis.
Don’t atribute malice where stupidity fits. It’s quite probable that a sizable chunk of those 25% didn’t even understood the question.
Can the Lt ever find Greenland on a ma? Are people still falling for Lief Ericsson’s lies?
Numbers like these really reinforce that there’s no coming back for the US.
Honestly I actually think this is a good sign. There was a point toward the end of 2024 when Trump could have come out and said the moon is made of cheese and polls would say 50% of Americans agree with him. The fact that in less than two years Trump has lost 50% of his base is insane. He’s is hemorrhaging support.
If numbers keep moving this way the midterm elections, which happen later this year will be interesting to say the least.
There aren’t going to be midterms
I think they want y’all to continue selling this fear for them so they can cheat again and say OH FIRST THERE WAS GOING TO BE NO ELECTION NOW WE CHEATED?!
Setting y’all up. (I get it, he said it, but it’s part of the theater)
Don’t forget that Russia has elections.
Oh Jesus Christ the bait here is real
I agree that Trump will try to cancel them, but if he does it will truly be the end for him. I am watching Milwaukee and I no longer believe Americans will sit still and let him cancel midterms. The opposition to Trump took a pathetically long time to get going, but it is finally going.
Wait so you are telling me the moon is not made of cheese!?!?
25% of Americans would jump off a cliff if Trump told them to.
Didn’t he tell them to drink bleach for covid? Unfortunately no one really did.
No, he told them to inject bleach. Much different.
So. No one will talk about the 48% of Americans that are okay with abducting the President in charge of a sovereign country so rich Americans could snatch them away their oil?
Yes, foreigners, if you go to the USA, apparently that’s a hot topic.
Be honest if aliens from space showed up and just abducted Trump and put him into space prison, how angry would you be about that?
25% of Americans are perfectly fine with the US just taking over independent countries. 75% oppose but only if they don’t have to do anything other than answer a poll.
So I should be leaving a steaming pile of poop on every fourth front porch in the US? This is depressing, I only have so much poop.
Even if you pooped on a new one every day for 80 years, you’d only hit 29,200 porches. Alas, the shortcomings of human poop production hit hard in times like these.
I may need to cut my poops into bite-size pieces. Gonna need a new poop knife.
Just get a good honing steel and the one you have can last a lifetime.
Ice cube trays
However, if each of the 75019230 people who voted for Kamala would instead start shitting on the porches of the 25% (~90 million people), y’all will be done in less than two days. Such is the power of organizing!
Since when does this regime care about what its constituents think?
Will they oppose it though? Or just sit on their arses and do nothing?
Why is this in !world@lemmy.world ?
I am tired of USAsians’ navel-gazing.
If only ONE of those 75% was Trump.
