• LOGIC💣@lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    So, ICE is scared that aggressive untrained people will use deadly force against them, and that afterwards the government will do nothing about it?

    That’s pretty much how everybody else has felt about ICE for a long time.

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        Not in this case.

        Give it a month, max, before somebody with either the cojones or the ovaries required to do this, does it.

        … This … this is literally how the American Revolution started, at least from one sort of way of looking at it.

        You have oppressive government forces killing and maiming enough randos long enough, eventually the randos start shooting back.

        See also: Anywhere else the US has invaded and occupied in the last, I dunno, 75 years, more than that.

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        With that said, if you were to end in the same situation, would the idea to actually run over an ICE agent so that he doesn’t shoot you cross your mind?

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          I really fail to see how that’s relevant to the source being a satire news site.

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            What I mean is satire or not: they SHOULD be worried. Now people may genuinely assume that running over them is the higher survival rate option.

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      That pig was was recording while reaching for his gun, it looks like that video was meant as a trophy.

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    Guys, The Halfway Post is a satire website. “America’s #1 source for Dada news”. Lotta people eating the onion in this comment section.

    • AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works
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      Mate, have you read the news in the last months, with special attention to the first days of this year? I understand it’s satire and it’s not real, but right now, people are having a really hard time to distinguish satire from real news.

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        One of the biggest reasons why everything sucks right now is the prevelance of misinformation online. This isn’t even trying to be misinformation, it took me literally five seconds to confirm that this is from a satire website, and yet when I posted it every other comment was engaging with this as though it were factual reporting.

        I know everything sucks right now, but we can’t start freely accepting lies as truth just because we’re tired. If we do that, we lose completely.

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      Especially when, sadly, we all know DHS will 100% get a Federal judge or SCOTUS to make this LEO-only OK and let them shoot anyone they want driving, walking, or looking towards them.

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      That’s because a lot of people are fucking pissed and in absence of any action by our governments and institutions in place to protect us are on the verge of taking matters into their own hands.

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    Breaking: ICE is afraid that Americans will start exercising their second amendment rights to protect their first and fourth amendment rights from a tyrannical pedofile protecting uncontrolled secret police

  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    It’s almost as if they’re projecting since they know that it’s standard practice for them to jump in front of moving vehicles so they have an excuse to open fire and claim self defense.

    They’re literally accusing people of what they have been doing for at least a decade now.

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    I seriously doubt you’re making it to the jury stage of the trial if you open fire on police

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      Renee Good didn’t open fire on police and still didn’t make it to a jury trial. When unarmed, peaceful people are executed as though they’re violent protesters, there’s no longer any real reason to be unarmed, peaceful people.

      This federal government wants people to open fire on police. This would justify a further police state, martial law, and cancelling the midterm elections that they’re definitely on pace to lose disastrously. Natural causes is taking its sweet time, but even if it weren’t I don’t think the next guy would change a thing unless his owners told him to.

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          Agreed, but they’ll try to argue that violent protesters could kill thousands of innocent people, so killing them is the morally right thing to do. Here, they’re arguing that Renee Good was a domestic terrorist that was using her vehicle as a weapon to try to kill the ICE guy, even though it’s blatantly obvious that that’s not what was happening in the slightest.

          I’m just saying that they’re escalating. They’re hoping that people either stay home because they’re afraid of being executed just for being outside, or retaliate and permit them to escalate further. And even an extreme retaliation will not eradicate the fascism, so I’m not sure what the right move is now that we’re at this point.

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    13 days ago

    ICE officials worried citizens may treat them the same way they treat people. Welcome to bizarro land.

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    Well yeah that’s kind of how rules and laws are supposed to work.

    That’s kind of the entire purpose of having a system of government. If a government doesn’t exist to protect the people who pay for it, what’s the point of it even existing?

    Pretty sure the people intentionally destroying the U.S. are aware of that, but it’s always kind of a head scratcher to learn the people that are carrying out their orders have been so busy goose-stepping and commiting crimes on their behalf, they haven’t really picked up on it.

    I’m really not sure why I have to explain to other adults that we all benefit as a society from a system that promotes equality and protects the majority from harm and exploitation.

    When you help these people in their never ending war on equality, you’re helping to further cement a system of government that enables exploitation and removes any expectation of protection for the majority.

    That is what you’re working towards on behalf of a billionaire class. A world where they’re protected by the system, but we’re all expendable, including you. That is what people mean when they call you class traitors. If that term offends you it’s probably because you’re not understanding or recognizing your own exploitation.

    You’ve handed over civil rights and civil liberties for the “freedom” to participate in a caste system which protects an overclass you will never be part of. Your sole purpose in the system is to help keep them propped up above the rest of society by enforcing their rules and acting as cannon fodder that serves to insulate them from the rest of the masses.

    Mudsill theory is the proposition that there must be, and always has been, a lower class or underclass for the upper classes and the rest of society to rest upon. The term derives from a mudsill, the lowest threshold that supports the foundation for a building. The theory was first articulated by James H. Hammond, a Democratic United States senator from South Carolina and a wealthy Southern plantation owner, in a speech on March 4, 1858. Hammond argued that every society must find a class of people to do menial labor, whether called slaves or not, and that assigning that status on a racial basis followed natural law, while the Northern United States’ social class of white wage laborers presented a revolutionary threat. Mudsill theory and similar rhetoric has been dubbed “the Marxism of the Master-Class” which fought for the rights of the propertied elite against what were perceived as threats from the abolitionists, lower classes and non-whites to gain higher standards of living

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      The thing is, they view it as a fair trade to support that in exchange for the opportunity to be a part of that system. They might not be the galactic emperor, but they don’t seem to mind being a stormtrooper. Everyone else is just peasants and rebel scum in their eyes.

      To them, they’re high enough on the social hierarchy to have plenty of people to look down on, and that’s all they need to feel better about themselves.

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        True, but they shouldn’t act so surprised when they find themselves thrown under the bus. They probably always will, but again, it’s because they’re too ignorant to recognize their own exploitation.

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    This may be satire but it does really capture that casual assumption they seem to share that everyone else has the same lust for violence that they do. Most people have to be pushed pretty far to even consider violence, especially lethal violence. For them it seems like every conflict is an opportunity to violently escalate and prove their strength.

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      Knowing nothing about this outlet this seems more like wish casting than satire tbh. It’s just not absurd enough to be joking, other than the idea that top ICE officials would be worried about consequences.

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    GOOD!

    Every American should get a gun right now just to make them afraid.

    Don’t advertise on social media, just buy it.

    Store it disassembled, but get some ammo. This way you can put it back together but they can’t claim you were armed if they come in with a no-knock warrant. Kinda hard if your pistol is in 17 separate bits in a locked case.

    What this will do is show statistics of gun ownership go up in blue states.

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      Would be really interesting to find out a lot of lefties in red states had guns that were off the books… Don’t look at me, I lost mine in an unfortunate boating accident.

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        Black Panthers getting guns brought on some pretty fucking fast gun control laws

        Now imagine every LGBT person being strapped, publicly where it’s allowed. The MAGA snowflakes would be so fucking scared

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      Store it disassembled, but get some ammo. This way you can put it back together but they can’t claim you were armed if they come in with a no-knock warrant. Kinda hard if your pistol is in 17 separate bits in a locked case.

      If they shoot someone raiding a house I don’t know if there would be a trial at this point though. I’m not saying you should do some solo stand-your-ground thing and get yourself killed, but it doesn’t seem like it would make a difference if you even owned a gun or not as far as their legal justification, even if there was a trial they could say they feared for their life. Police have shot people sleeping in bed and gotten away with it.

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        Police also have framed people or claimed afterward that because they owned a gun more force was required and necessary.

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    I just signed up for a basic self defense class. I figure the chances of an honest to God civil war breaking out have now risen into whole numbers. Thanks, assholes.