TikTok has been pushing Chinese propaganda to millions of users in Europe: analysis::More than 1,000 ads from Chinese state media outlets have run on European users’ TikTok feeds since October 2022, according to the platform’s latest ad library update that was analyzed by Forbes.

  • @fubo@lemmy.world
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    The NYPost (low-quality tabloid) is just echoing an actual article at Forbes, which can also be accessed in archive form here.

    In general, when a low-quality tabloid site merely reports on the existence of research done by actual reporters, it’s better to follow the links and post the researched article instead of the tabloid one.

    • Mwalimu
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      4711 months ago

      Spread the gospel! Cite the primary sources as much as possible.

    • @jerkface@lemmy.ca
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      111 months ago

      I have been seeing some really low effort propaganda that verges on trolling from Forbes on YouTube.

  • @mayo@lemmy.world
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    3211 months ago

    See that other article on the NYPost next to this one? A guy turned himself into a border collie? He’s a dog now and it only cost $20,000.

    Great news source. No problems here. Not click bait garbage at all. Nope, not meant for maximum sharing. Thanks L4sBot for your contribution.

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    Yeah well Orwell’s 1984 was way off then. The government does not even have to force people to install devices in their homes that blare government propaganda 24/7. They are doing it willingly, enthusiastiacally even, and they don’t even have to be citizens of that government lol

    Who would have thought?

  • @fidodo@lemmy.world
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    2611 months ago

    Breaking news! Chinese company runs ads paid for by Chinese government! Did anyone think otherwise? All governments pay for ads. Who in their right mind would think a Chinese company would refuse their government as an ad customer?

    • Buelldozer
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      11 months ago

      Ads are one thing but state propaganda is something different. In a US political context this would be like the State of Florida running “Ads” on Facebook discussing how slavery was actually beneficial to the slaves. Get it now?

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        In Florida the people who own the politicians own the media companies, it is probably worse because people like you can’t tell the difference.

      • @nomadjoanne@lemmy.world
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        411 months ago

        Right. It certainly happens to the West. But the governments in Western democracy have to be a bit more subtle when it comes to their propaganda and not run this stuff directly.

    • @malcyon@lemmy.world
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      111 months ago

      What does it mean to use TikTok ironically? How is that different from using it normally?

      Tiktok has 1 billion users. Whatever message they decide to push is going to propagate through the masses. I don’t think most people have the ability to notice and deflect misinformation like you’re implying.

  • QubaXR
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    2411 months ago

    TikTok is garbage, but perhaps we should look at all the ridiculous right wing propaganda pushed by YouTube, Facebook and Twicough X

    • @Tesco@lemmy.world
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      YouTube is absolutely dreadful for it. I have literally zero interest in American politics, I’m interested in world events but frankly couldn’t care less about another country’s domestic politics yet it’s pushed almost every time I load the site.

      I mostly watch things like travel vlogs and trip reports, yet get endless spam about right wing American politics. There’s nothing in my search history that would suggest I’d care about it.

      • @slumberlust@lemmy.world
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        111 months ago

        The advertisers cater adverts to target demographics and search/web history. While you may not be interested in them, they are certainly interested in you for some reason. They could be bad at their jobs, but it’s more likely there is some overlap there.

        • @Tesco@lemmy.world
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          It’s the YouTube algorithm that’s pushing this garbage and it’s blatantly obvious, the actual adverts largely line up with my interests. If I don’t watch a YouTuber for a couple of weeks they disappear from my reccommed. I never watch anything about American politics, barely watch any American YouTubers yet there it is every single time without fail.

    • @kayos@lemmy.world
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      111 months ago

      Only use Twitter reddit. I’m getting pissed off eith both. More shit. I understand they are all “free”, but I still want a basic standard.

    • @hopelessbyanxiety@lemmy.world
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      noooo we have only facts and truth! Only the bad guys lie and do teh ebil propeganda. Oh wait who blew up the Nord Stream? Anyway the us said it was the spoopy russians. Really sorry that german industries got shot in the legs, and don’t you look at who stands to gain by that.

  • @nxfsi@lemmy.world
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    1311 months ago

    There is no currently no actual evidence that TikTok is a threat to national security, but consider this:

    1. TikTok is owned by Chinese company
    2. All large Chinese companies are required to have Party members in the board, making them defacto state-run
    3. PR China is currently committing genocide, large-scale espionage, subversion of foreign countries and all sorts of fun stuff associated with authoritarian fascist dictatorships
    • @ABC123itsEASY@lemmy.world
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      711 months ago

      You’re not necessarily wrong in all respects, but this comment is peak whataboutism. Western tiktok is targeted mostly at children and young adults who are obviously highly impressionable, so I would argue that regardless of whats happening on any other social media platform, this is unwanted and harmful and therefore shouldn’t be accepted.

      • @charles@lemmy.world
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        1411 months ago

        The difference is there is American federal policy being put in place around TikTok specifically that is not being done against other social media apps.

        • @ABC123itsEASY@lemmy.world
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          Yea when people organize an attempted coup on Chinese tiktok, your point may hold more water. Not saying it’s a good thing, but it’s clear that Facebook et al’s primary motive is not promoting nationalistic goals; domestically or aboard.

      • @ghariksforge@lemmy.world
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        1111 months ago

        Whataboutism is the correct and logical answer to hypocrites. There is nothing that Tiktok is guilty of that Twitter or Instagram aren’t.

        • @TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world
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          211 months ago

          For sure. Instagram Reels and YouTube Shorts are all functionally identical and equally concerning as TikTok in every way, and Xitter is trying to jump onto that too.

      • Doug [he/him]
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        811 months ago

        Are children and young adults really more impressionable than Fox news, and thereby Facebook’s, audience?

        I also don’t know that I agree with “targeted mostly at children and young adults”. There are very large parts of TikTok that would be wholly unappealing to your average kid. Not to mention that American social media started out very much targeted at children and young adults. Or have we already forgotten what the main demographics of Facebook and myspace used to be?

        The problem with whataboutism here is that these conversations pretty much always involve TikTok and rarely other platforms until it’s brought up in comments where it can be dismissed as whataboutism.

        Either they’re all a problem (it’s this one) or none of them are. We need to stop drawing arbitrary lines between offenders. It’s just giving a bunch of shit bags freedom to continue being shit bags.

        • Buelldozer
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          -111 months ago

          Are children and young adults really more impressionable than Fox news

          Fox News isn’t being paid by the Federal or State Governments to run “Ads” that attempt to put a positive spin on negative events.

            • Buelldozer
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              011 months ago

              Was the US Federal Government paying Fox News to run ads talking about how the mass murder of American Indians was a good thing?

              No? Then GTFO out of here with this whataboutism. It’s fucking gross.

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                The same people fund both the government (through elections) and the news media. I guarantee you Murdoch is friends with many of his fellow billionaires.

                L

          • Doug [he/him]
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            011 months ago

            Does it count when a major political party, that does that all the time, uses the money it pilfered from that government, or is that different somehow?

            What about that the only reason they’re not doing it directly from the government account is because of the safeguards against that kind of thing they haven’t pulled down yet

            • Buelldozer
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              111 months ago

              A political party is not the Government nor do their ads attempt to whitewash Government misdeeds.

              • Doug [he/him]
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                111 months ago

                A political party makes up parts of the government and uses their ads to whitewash their own actions within the government.

                This division is not at clean as you’re trying to make it

    • @fidodo@lemmy.world
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      311 months ago

      Facebook ran ads paid for by Russian propagandists which IMO is far worse than a Chinese company running Chinese ads.

  • drewofdoom
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    1011 months ago

    Not saying it’s a lie, but sourcing from NYPost is automatically a huge red flag.

    I’ll put more stock in this when it’s reported by reputable outlets.

  • Move to lemm.ee
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    Are you worried about your rising cost of living, decreasing living standards, wages and the total global catastrophe that is climate change?

    Don’t worry about that prole, worry about aliens and tiktok!

  • @tillimarleen@feddit.de
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    811 months ago

    From the original story in Forbes: „Both Meta and Google label content posted by state media outlets, and in January, TikTok announced that it would join them in doing so. (Twitter formerly labeled posts by state media outlets, but discontinued the labels under Elon Musk.)“