Trump said that Venezuela’s new leader, Delcy Rodríguez, would help the United States run Venezuela. She quickly said the opposite.
Trump said Delcy Rodríguez was sworn in as Venezuela’s interim president and would act as a partner in letting the United States run the country.
“She’s essentially willing to do what we think is necessary to make Venezuela great again,” he said.
Less than two hours later, Ms. Rodríguez — who was Nicolás Maduro’s vice president — delivered a televised address to Venezuela that made clear she viewed the United States as an illegal invader that must be rejected.
I’m an American and believe the nations of the world should sanction us into economic ruin over this (and everything else from the last year).
Nah. Just a targeted police action to arrest the rogue elements who purport to be the lawfully elected government.
They’d be justified in sanctions, but I don’t think that it would actually accomplish anything. The people doing this shit don’t give a flying fuck about them because it would hurt you and me, not them.
I support bombing both DC and Mar a Lago. Or, just bomb one of the golf courses he’s at. He’s such an easy target for anyone that wants to kill him.
If only he took less stimulants so that he stood still enough for that nice young man from Pennsylvania
Dictators around the world are getting too comfortable. They’re seeing too many examples of other dictators getting away with war crimes, illegal invasions, and other atrocities.
Putin emboldened Netanyahu, Netanyahu emboldened trump, and I don’t even want to think about who’s going to feel emboldened by trump.
Rules based order, multilateralism, and international law seem to be crumbling with no enforcement. Arguably the greatest achievements of the twentieth century, disappearing like vapor…
If they don’t, Greenland will be next.
This is starting to smell like appeasement real fast.
So, the thing is… all the nations that care will be financially ruined trying that.
Which would strengthen their enemies…
And they know that.
Geopolitics has consequences. What some see as endless wars others see as opportunity to practice a long held human tradition. War.
It’s a skill you lose if you don’t practice.
Today we were told once again the west is dead. Long live America, and the west… is the western hemisphere. It belongs to the USA. America owns everything on this continent. They keep telling us that. Who is going to stop them when Russia tells Europe… guess who provides you the oil that runs your great nations. Sure would be a shame to leave you in the dark. China gets the rest. Unified, finally.
The new world order.
“The revolution will be bloodless if the left allows it to be”
Can’t believe this is the history we got.
Stfu yankee
On the one hand, Maduro’s leadership is illegitimate and horrible.
That said, the US isn’t invading because they want to bring peace and democracy to them. It’s because they want to get oil production for private businesses back into the country and because they didn’t “fall in line”.
Fucking US Imperialism revival going on…
Agreed. But, going forward. Don’t even give the first “hand” point. It’s meaningless. All it does is give a “both sides” opening for the normies to think there is debate.
This isn’t 2010. The fascist don’t arguing in good faith. Just state that this shit is wrong, why it’s wrong, and move on.
We ARE the Nazis. There isn’t a “well, you would invade if Hilter was leader” argument to be had. This is the equivalent of Hilter invading Venezuela. There are no scenarios in which “one hand” needs to be said.
I really hope people start to understand this. Because, at this point, any “hand” given to America is like giving justification for Nazi Germany.
In this case rhe US are the baddies however you spin it
I’d argue it’s closer to Russia invading Cuba, but valid.
No. Forgetting truth is what got us here. Maduro was a sham-“elected” dictator, not some gardener making tomatoes.
Words mean things, and using them dishonestly weakens the word. We are not Nazis, Trump is not Hitler, as there are not literal roving death squads literally rounding up and gunning down minorities as state policy. The US is not invading Venezuela for liebenstraum with the intent of genociding the people who live there.
The words you’re looking for are “Mussolini” and “fascist Italy”. Can even mention invading Ethiopia! And maybe even relish in how Mussolini met his end :)
Venezuela’s elections were widely monitored, even independent groups from the US said they didn’t find irregularities. The people saying it was stolen are the same people asking Trump to take over, and they also support Israeli genocide and asked them to help as well. Do you have a direct source for your conviction that the elections were a sham?
Maduro’s leadership is a helluva lot more legitimate than the orange pedophile.
Yes. If they intervened right after the elections, there could be an argument, but now it’s obvious that it’s only about business. Trump and his cronies don’t give a shit about democracy
It’s insane how fast MAGA went from no wars to “we are so happy that a dictator was removed and the people of Venezuela are happy!”
WTF!?!? It’s batshit crazy the lengths they go to to justify all his illegal actions.
It’s really easy to change your positions when there were never any principles behind it either way.
This is what I’m so desperate for people to understand: these are empty people. In terms of politics, they don’t have beliefs in the way you and I do. They have hollowed out that part of themselves. This is why debate or the introduction of new facts never changes their minds, because it never made up their mind in the first place. Such a change requires your positions to be propped up by genuine belief in what you think is the right thing, where that prop can be knocked over.
These people belong to a team, a clan, a cult, however you want to phrase it. The only thing that matters is that their side is in power and uses that power to act against those who aren’t. Any means to that end is valid to them. They’ll happily switch to whichever position is most convenient for them without missing a beat. They’re only justifying it to you to keep you busy and distracted, they never really believed a word they said. They just chose the words they thought would be most effective to win.
I’ve always said, “you can’t logic someone out of a position they didn’t logic themselves into”.
“communism bad” has been hammered into the heads of Americans for decades, it’s easy to exploit that reflex
they were never, anti war.
then saying so was such an obvious lie, they were always vocally pro war.
I think what we are seeing is Trump telling the truth. Rodriguez is likely a puppet of the US. She is trying to save face to be able to actually prevent popular uprising.
This works for both of them. Trump gets to tell the truth about US influence and control of Venezuela. It’s makes him look strong and this is the only message most Americans will hear. And Rodriguez gets to look to be against the occupation; while working closely with the US in reality. And this narrative is what will be pushed heavily in Venezuela.
Maduro heavily armed his supporters. This wasn’t meant to actually stop the invasion of Venezuela. It was meant to create insurgent groups of resistance that would put America in another Iraq situation. But the US wasnt deterred by this.
This seems to be an attempt to bring Maduro supporters in line and give the US time to insert their puppets at all meaningful levels of power in Venezuela. (The resistance to occupation part).
At least that’s my take on this. The US is in the wrong here. Clearly. But, I’m not going to jump to believe a leader that is only sitting in that position because the US allows them to be. They kidnapped the leader of a foreign nation. You think Rodriguez would be allowed a microphone for anything but the purpose of US imperialism? No.
Do I think this will work? Will it actually stop resistance groups in Venezuela? No, I don’t think it will. But only time will tell.
TLDR: Rodriguez is just trying to not look like a complete puppet and trying to save face.
Trump is always playing 4D chess we just can’t understand!
Or maybe, just maybe, a guy convicted of 34 counts of fraud only knows how to scam people and doesn’t actually know how anything works in the world.
it’s makes him look strong
It makes him look like a huge dumbass
Yes. I think the problem with the way I write sometimes is that I phrase things with the assumption that the reader understands the context in my head and can miss a thought. Definitely should have been “look strong to his supporters”.
“t RUMP gets to tell the truth”
I don’t think that is possible.He’s blatantly admitting he wants oil, so he’s accidentally telling the truth
Wait, are you saying that the US still has boots on the ground in Venezuela? Do they still have physical influence in the country? That’s the only way they could ‘allow’ or ‘disallow’ an official to address their people, right?
I guess I was under the impression that they just kidnapped the leader and left. I thought, from what I saw from the Venezuelan officials, that the US dose not currently have a continued presence in the country.
The status of this was pretty unclear at the time I wrote the comment. I highly doubt we’re getting accurate info from there right now. But, I doubt Rodriguez is doing things out of fear; likely more out of self interest along with self preservation.
Will it become like Mexico? Full of cartels that the government can’t control
Edit: I don’t know why the downvotes for a genuine question but ok
Doubtful. Mexico is in a very different situation than Venezuela. To Americans though it’s hard to think much beyond “brown people that live south of us”.
He basically threatened to kill her today, so. Neat
Why did they use a Eurocopter AS350 for this poster?
That’s what you got from this?
Even if she was willing to collab with the yankees, she no longer can appear that way after the terrorists ran their mouths about that.
Were they really expecting Venezuela to welcome the US as their new puppeteer just because they kidnapped their leader?
I mean, do you remember W Bush’s post war Iraq plans? The party hasn’t gotten any less myopic since then.
Have you seen modern US military engagements? Those motherfuckers dont learn from their mistakes.
Well actually, they do. Theyve learned starting conflicts makes weapons manufacturers and military contractors big dollars. Especially when the economy is cooling off.
Nothing Trump ever does ever lasts more than a few hours.
“We conquered Venezuela”
Two hours later: “No, you didn’t”
She has bigger balls than me, brave but I don’t think this will help her or Venezuela.
Regardless, it’s nice to see people stand up against Goliath
The US is only an imaginary powerhouse. The only real useful tool at our disposal are our nuclear weapons. The US hasnt won a war since WW2, and even then we were given such an upper hand in that fight by joining late and the Soviets changing sides, theres no shot we would have even won that war without Russia.
For an imaginary powerhouse, they sure pulled off the special forces operation of my lifetime, no casualties and kidnapping a President and his wife so he doesn’t get lonely.
That’s a lot of resources to pull that off, satellites, AWACs, God knows what else. It’s a flex.
Wasnt a port bombed? Are you sure there are no civilian casualties? It also seems like the operation was successful but the end goal of installing a puppet government is going the wrong direction
No, I’m not even positive that was Maduro in photo. I’m just taking their claims for what they are worth.
Power isnt about inflicting death and destruction its about getting others to willingly do what you want. Americans used to understand this, once.
Okay allow me to rephrase to MILITARY POWER or MURDER POWER or whatever you wish with regards to death and destruction.
USA is pretty good, don’t you think?
The US is a mere paper tiger in front of-wait, no, no, NOOOOOOO!
Someone tell me what the image is, I am afraid
A gigantic paper tiger next to the earth. The earth is smaller
Yeah, we’re so imaginary we’ve kept Taiwan free and the CCP contained all this time, among dozens of other things. Opposing forces have said going against our special forces is like fighting against aliens because we’re so advanced, methodical and well trained.
What does “contained” mean? China is probably the most influential global power right now due to economic pressure that the US ceded to them. They dont exactly need Taiwan for anything, why would they go to war over that country and risk thermonuclear destruction of the earth?
And Im unaware of any forces talking about our special forces, i dont go looking for that information.
You can’t really believe that.
Which part
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“Art of the Deal”
Maduro is NOT the only President of Venezuela. Furthermore, I recognize Delcy Rodriguez as the new Venezuelan President. I sincerely wish her the best of luck. Seriously!
It’s all staged.
I think this is a situation where it’s fair to ask for proof of what you’re claiming. By no means am I saying you’re wrong, but I’d like to understand why you think this is so.
Don’t know yet, actions will show.
