- cross-posted to:
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- cross-posted to:
- climate@slrpnk.net
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Fellas, is it gay to not set the planet on fire?
Based on the heteronormative men I know and how they feel about fire… yes
They are daydreaming of a mad max future
Climate change is woke and woke is gay
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When I’m pumping iron, I feel the burn, bro. But you know what else is burning, bro? The planet, bro.
Am I doing it right?
for anyone in a tech-ish field, look into “i am not a maker”
it is about how part of the false binary of socially constructed gender norms is that men are builders, makers, and doers while women are nurturers, fixers, and maintainers. the aspects of living in a patriarchal society as the normalized hegemony lead to not only the arbitrary assignment of things to masculine or feminine identity, but also the de-emphasis of valuable traits that are assigned to the feminine identity.
as absurd as the findings in this article are, they’re actually not at all surprising once you start thinking about what we assign to the genders and how early this hegemonic programming begins. one of the things we have to be doing as we combat these forces in order to address the climate crises is to do more to listen to marginalized voices because this is not the only space or dimension in which completely illogical stances and approaches to the world have been normalized.
I mean it’s not completely arbitrary.
If you have daughters you’ll see how quickly they are drawn to dolls and babies. It’s before they can talk or have any kind of ‘programming’ instilled.
Not all woman and doesn’t mean they can’t build shit too though.
you realize talking like you do about this topic to any normal person will make them hate you instantly?
people don’t care if they are illogical. they care how they feel. attraction is about feelings, not logic.
what does attraction have to do with thinking talking climate change is unmanly? also “i am not a maker” is about how to talk about feminism in tech. i was recommending it for other people who might be interested in the theory behind how we combat this in the workplace, not to people who need convincing that you need to listen to women in tech. how you convince people to listen to tech largely has to do with introducing consequences to men who treat women like they only exist as sexual objects for men to behold
attraction should not factor into any of this, ultimately. and in fact, if we want to get further into the weeds, one of the things we need to do, societally, is to make eco-consciousness fun. doing the right thing is sexy. it gives us better beaches to frolic on. it means people age better. it means there’s more variety of dance music to shake our asses to. but people are addicted to short term rewards instead of long term benefits
attraction isn’t about what should be.
it is about what is. human beings are not worldly creatures who think of the greater good. they are tribalistic, emotional, and immediate gratification is their primary goal above all else.
your problem is you think human beings shouldn’t be human. you want them to attain a monk like enlightenment…
human beings are not worldly creatures who think of the greater good. they are tribalistic, emotional, and immediate gratification is their primary goal above all else.
who is your favorite anthropologist, and why do you think they’ve been lying about human activities their whole career?
These types of guys also base their entire ‘alpha’ personas on bad science, why not lump climate science in there too?
lolwut
Bawbags
As a man who is actively on the dating market… the number of women who care about lcimate change is absolutely zero. And bringing it up on a date is a surefire way of losing all interest of the woman. most ladies i see on apps or i have met IRL are seeking to speed run climate change via travel, luxury lifetyles, and over-consumption. so yeah, if you are against those things, you won’t do very well on the dating market. trying to limit your footprint is very much ‘gay’ behaviour for a man seeking to win women over. i’ve never met a woman who was impressed by by eco-friendly hatchback, my living in small eco friendyl apartment, or my habit of composting. most find it repulsive and upsetting.
Women don’t like men that care about things other than them. If you framed it as ‘babe i want to protect you from the climate change’ she might be into it, but if you are caring more about other people than her she will find in unattractive and you’ll probably come across as self-righteous and pedant rather than as caring.
Maybe the women you’ve met, but that’s deffo not been the case for me. I’m not dating right now, but I was earlier this year. You might just be meeting self-absorbed people if your experience is that the women you’re meeting don’t like men that care about anything other than them!
99.9% of people are self absorbed. very few care about anything other themselves and their immediate emotional gratification.
and most of them have some excuse like they donated to charity once, so they are now good to be selfish for life.
Again, that’s not been my experience personally. I’m sorry that you’ve met so many selfish people. Hope you’re having a good holiday break if you’ve got the time off! ✌️
Whole lot of generalisations here. This is just the people you’re attracting. Opposites attract.
For me that just usually meant extroverts rather than climate apathy. All my long-term partners, including my wife (who I met on bumble), have been big climate advocates.
no, it’s my real life experience. every eco-friendly woman i met was a massive hypocrite about it.
like she’d say she was vegan but then she’d drive a gas guzzler, because the rules don’t apply to her, just everyone else.
Yes, you are generalising your personal experience to everyone like I said.
Sounds like you’re letting perfect be the enemy of good. Car companies have colluded with the government to slow the progression of EVs, making moral ‘purity’ a luxury that the current economy doesn’t allow most people to have. If you’re pro-vegan, you should understand that making one major ethical sacrifice doesn’t give someone the power to single-handedly bypass a century of fossil-fuel infrastructure. You aren’t uncovering a character flaw; you’re just pointing out that they are living in the same rigged system the rest of us are.
