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    Bedrock Minecraft has always been the micro transaction version of Minecraft.

    If you’re playing Bedrock and are now worried about Microtransactions, that’s on you.

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    They just removed obfuscation from Java Edition. If they even try to do a single stupid move - like with chat reporting a few years ago - it will be simply modded out of the game.

    The only thing that they might be able to do is increase the price for buying the game, mess with the accounts or illegally change their EULA - without notifying anyone - again.

    Bugrock Edition on the other hand is already a dumpster fire for years, so nobody really cares about that one in the first place…

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      Luanti sucks in modding support compared to minecraft. Luanti mods cant override game code, so the patches to the game code are impossible with mods. Due to this limitation, even the basic things like custom controls or shader support cannot be added using mods.

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        To add to pinball:

        …If one wants to code in shader support, shouldn’t they just PR it? This isn’t like Mojang where the source is set in stone.

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        You can just edit the game? Why would you want mods for an open-source game?

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          This is like saying “why do you need a plugins for an open source software, if you can just edit it?”.

          If all of the custom stuff should be included in the game, then without modding support, ALL of the stuff should be patched into the game manually. Modding allows to easily add the content and functionality into the game, without editing the game code.

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            Yeah, but anyone willing to implement shaders for Luanti can just contribute it to the game itself. Then you wouldn’t need to do anything to get the support.

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            This is not how open-source development works. All the various mod authors can just include their additions in the game if it is open-source. And most Luanti games already include vastly more features than vanilla Minecraft because of that.

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          Other comment pretty much already said it, but I think anyone with hundreds or thousands of mods installed in a game can tell you that literally patching the game code would be a painful endeavor.

          Even if you compile your own game and want to change one simple thing, it’s better if you can do it via a mod rather than directly editing the game code - this way you don’t get merge conflicts when pulling the updated source from git!

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            That wasn’t my point. Mods get developed because the game itself can’t be modified otherwise. The Luanti games that are like Minecraft include already a lot of functionality that is only available with mods in Minecraft and it doesn’t make much sense to ask for mods in this context.

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              Mods get developed because the game itself can’t be modified otherwise

              Literally not the case.

              Even in a game that you can directly modify, it’s easier to organize modifications by keeping them modular.

              Not everyone wants everything in their game.

              Luanti games that are like Minecraft include already a lot of functionality that is only available with mods in Minecraft and it doesn’t make much sense to ask for mods in this context.

              It makes sense to ask for mod support because what if you want to extend the game functionality even further, without forcing your vision of the game on everyone (merging it into the upstream project) or having to patch it manually (or via some patch utility that still kinda sucks)

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                  And then you’re left with hundreds of forks that are incompatible with each other. The whole point of mods is that they’re interoperable

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      I tried minetest long ago and was not particularly impressed. Has the community grown big enough?

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        The “Minetest” you tried was likely just the barebones example game that used to ship with the engine. Since so many people got confused by that, they stopped distributing that example game with the engine and now you get asked what fully featured games you want on first start. Voxelibre is the one that is like Minecraft but better.

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      Does it support Minecraft mods, or does it have to have them converted/made special for it?

      Because that’s going to affect whether or not it has surpassed anything imo.

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        It has equivalents for most Minecraft mods (and more), but no, it is not directly compatible with Minecraft.

        I think you should rather ask if Minecraft mods come even close to what Luanti games can do 😅

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          Is there anything like the ATM packs? Those are the majority of what I play, with ATM10TTS being my current playthrough

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    Why do we live in a world where incompetent people are constantly rewarded

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      Corporate mantra:

      Profits Rule Everything Around Me

      Microtransactions may make a game an unplayable pile of shit most of the time, but they’re a great way to turn children’s allowances into corporate profit if you’re a gigantic corporation that doesn’t care at all about amount of fun that can be had in a game.

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    You can just download any of the older iterations of Minecraft and host your own server.

    You don’t need to be on the latest release.

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        They can only release new versions with crippled features rather than taking away what older versions have.

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        As I understand it, older versions of the app have hacked that call/response so it either doesn’t happen or dummies out. Also, lots of minecraft community servers will advertise what version they’re using, because certain updates are considered undesirable.

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    If you’d like to build a 4th chest, you will have to buy some chest tokens using minecoins which of course has a tiered pricing scheme.

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    They’re never gonna put that stuff into Java, that’s the fully Mojang version of the game. And even then it’ll be as easy as ever to mod anything they try adding out.

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            so many launchers to pick from! i personally like Modrinth the most

            oh yeah and most of those launchers allow for easy modding. want a modpack? click install, wait for it to download, and then just click play in the automatically created instance. want only a few mods but don’t want to check endless dependency lists? what is it 2015? also just click install, the launcher will automatically download dependencies (and the right versions of them too!). worry that you’ll install a fabric version when you wanted forge? or a mod for 1.20 when you need 1.20.1? relax as when you click “add mods” the launcher automatically applies filters that only show you mods that are tagged for your specific version (filters that you can still disabled though, it doesn’t lock you out of installing a mod that’s not explicitly tagged as fit for your version, but you know it’ll work on it)

            though don’t get too comfy slapping that install button, there’re still two things that can’t be automated - incompatibilities between mods, and straight up broken files. launchers nowadays significantly reduce the number of headaches you get when modding, but they don’t entirely remove them lol

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            I’m kinda shocked you’ve never heard of them but yeah, there’s unofficial third-party Minecraft launchers you can get. CurseForge, Modrinth, and Prism Launcher are the top 3 big ones everyone uses. I personally use Prism Launcher simply because it’s the easiest to set up modpacks for imo.

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        I haven’t seen the official Minecraft launcher in a LONG time. Not sure what you trying to imply here.

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    additional context; Katie Scott, a former exec at ubisoft, will be the “Head of Vanilla Minecraft” in 2026. this source writes:

    Scott left Ubisoft in November, but her role as vice president of the company’s global creative game office saw her specialize in “competitive, live service, and free to play experiences to create games with lasting impact, high retention, and monetization results.” She also writes that she focused on “live service strategies and ambitious retention and monetization” in Assassin’s Creed and Rainbow Six games

    now that sounds bad on paper, but it’s unclear to me what exactly she’ll be doing in this position. best i could find was this linkedin post advertising the position 7 months ago, which reads:

    Join us in shaping the future. Minecraft isn’t just a game. It’s a platform for creativity, learning, and building community. We’re seeking a senior leader, based in Stockholm, to guide our talented teams toward Minecraft’s evolution. Help us build a better world through the power of play.

    my interpretation of this is that she’ll still be under other managers, and wouldn’t be making any big decisions alone. regardless, this is not a good look for Mojang, especially at a time where the community are getting impatient with Bedrock’s issues.

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    Interesting to see how this pans out.

    Minecraft really isn’t a game where microtransactions work, at least on the ethical stuff. It’s a game about creativity and sharing, which means a lot of people won’t be bothered with mtx.

    The elephant in the room is that there’s a giant ecosystem of paid server nonsense, most of which is basically pay-to-win and gambling for school kids, which Microsoft and Mojang somehow approve. They just think it’s unfair they don’t get a cut, hence the push for Bedrock marketplace and servers. Thing is, if Microsoft really starts seriously sticking their fingers into that pie, I really hope the regulators start waking up.

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    Dont feel like mining? $.99 will get you a stack of whatever block you need to build a base home!

    Don’t feel like crafting? Buy blueprints to the most extravagent of builds! Only $19.99

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      The second one will definitely happen. People already paying builders for nice buildings, and I bet Micro$oft wants in on this market

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    I know what they meant, but “head of Minecraft” sounds funny to me. Like “my dad works at Nintendo” vibes lol

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    Minecraft died in 2014. Microsoft has just been keeping the corpse animated weekend at Bernie’s style since then.