Since people from war-torn nations often flee to Europe where they tend to get all kinds of help and support, I wonder what countries Europeans would/could flee to - and be welcomed by - if there were to be a war engulfing most of Europe?
Any thoughts?
Since people from war-torn nations often flee to Europe where they tend to get all kinds of help and support
They don’t do that at all. That’s a deceitful right-wing talking point meant to create xenophobic reactions.
People from war torn nations move to non-war torn parts of their own county, or their direct neighbors. Only a tiny fraction go further, and only a fraction of those go all the way to Europe.
I am not interested in a political discussion nor in the overly-common mud-slinging that desperately attempts to label everyone either a hateful nazi or a moronic lefty. I simply wonder where Europeans would flee to, if there were a war that engulfs all of Europe.
Alas, since you seem to be more interested in other discussions: Saying people don’t flee from war to Europe seems highly deceitful in itself. I just looked at the statistics from Germany (which brought me to my question): By mid-2024, there were roughly 3.5 Million refugees in Germany. Over one million of them were from Ukraine. For the whole of the EU, there appear to be almost 7 million refugees from war-torn areas and a total of 13 million refugees in total (includes internally displaced people), and 1.7 million asylum applicants. Those appear to be official numbers and not right-wing talking points. I suppose in your mind, that means that people don’t flee to Europe?
https://www.unhcr.org/europe/europe-figures-glance-2023 https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/zahl-gefluechtete-deutschland-100.html
I am not interested in a political discussion nor in the overly-common mud-slinging that desperately attempts to label everyone either a hateful nazi or a moronic lefty.
Aren’t you in luck then, because I did neither. Your reaction is pretty over the top though.
Also, seeing how Ukraine is already in Europe, it would take a lot of effort for them not to flee to (elsewhere in) Europe.
There are millions of refugees in europe, correct. That just isn’t nearly as many people as you think. There can be millions of refugees in europe AND most people from war torn regions can be staying in their own or very nearby countries.
No one was calling you a nazi to be clear but your reaction to the original comment is weirdly defensive
Yup - triggers me to no end when questions immediately result in the need to apply labeling as either left-wing or right-wing, while the actual question is not answered. To me, that seems to indicate that there are bots on this site already.
Other European countries, other western countries like Canada, Australia, or New Zealand
Canadian here, we’ll be there again if you all need us ❤️
Our federal government is making it much harder to immigrate here and many people are being forced to leave the country since they can’t become a permanent resident anymore.
I agree with your sentiment, but our government and the average Canadian is far more anti-immigrant than 10 years ago.
Housing crisis really put a damper on things.
In an asylum scenario definitely can be considered but for migration in general we need to stabilize the housing and cost of living situation before we start inviting people over in my opinion. The population is also skewing more elderly (with immigration there being the only balancing factor) there and here so need go make sure our healthcare system is ready for such a migration without causing any institutional shocks.
I live pretty much in the middle of nowhere that is between three mountains and a Scandinavian fjord. I don’t see any safer alternatives to where I’m already at.
Any rooms for rent?
My basement. But it’s full of wood debris pending a rebuild. Clean it out, and it’s yours. Don’t tell anyone, though, as I doubt it’s legal to live there.
Australia, New Zealand, and Canada would probably be a popular choices.
Iceland!
Europeans would (will?) flee westward, away from Russian aggression.
Even if most of Europe is party to war, there will still be a front line and limited deep strikes. You don’t just have continent wide war with no place to flee to.
If Russia starts dropping nukes then it won’t be a Europe-problem anyways….
Historically, Argentina and the USA.
Yeah, but the non-Nazis need somewhere to go as well…
This person histories lol
The USA won’t let them in, the way they didn’t let in the Jews during WW2.
we will colonise the arctic and make New Skyrim
Hell nah, seasonal depression is already bad enough.
Dont worry! Climate change will fix that!
Uhhhh that’s not how it works.
Let me imagine my silver linings 😭😭 self delusion is the only reason I haven’t gone postal
Australia. Happened all the time
Well, anyone who could flee my country already has, so probably nowhere.
(Random thoughts, I’m clueless about this subject, it’s safer to assume I’m wrong about everything)
USA is an obvious first choice for many. I imagine other developed countries in the Americas will be hotspots too. The big question is which countries would accept mass influxes of European refugees.
I wonder if enough could flee to Africa, and bring some substantial wealth with them… Would that actually help Africa catch up to the developed world? Or would it instead just be new colonialism?
Of course Africa is huge, diverse and messy, so that’s a very vague answer/question.
The USA is the exact opposite of safe. A record number of people are currently trying to leave or have left (I’m one of those)
South Africa, because I can.
The question implies war in Europe. The reality is that once the enemy breaks though Poland and Czechia (and even there I wouldn’t put much credence into the latter), the rest of continental Europe will fold without a war. People will not flee, but gradually adjust to the new overlords. There may be small migration of the intelligentsia, which is in danger from any oppressive regime, but that will be likely in form of orderly emigration, rather than flight.
