I think people need a refresher course of the last 5 years or so. Because here’s the deal.
About 2017 to 2020, maybe 2021, the internet was a huge fucking fan of Elon. Including me. I LOVED Elon. Seemed like such a down to earth guy who genuinely wanted to help the human race and was super ambitious. Even if he was flawed. From what I remember, the general consensus was you either liked him, or you felt indifferent and just didn’t really care.
NOW that headspace has changed. Either you fucking hate him, or you do like him and get destroyed. Now, it took me about a year before I started to really dislike him the way the internet does. Because I felt like at the time the internet was doing what it always does. Blows shit outta proportion. That was, until I started seeing things change. Because starting about 2-3 years ago, there has been a massive ego fluctuation in Elon. His Twitter is not the same as it was back in 2019 for example. He was actually fairly level headed and would post the occasional meme. But it was always something amazing to do with Space X or Tesla. Okay, no harm there. NOW it’s full of nonsensical retarded tweets, dumbass memes left and right, tweets pretty much shitting on his own users…It’s a toxic fucking cesspool there. I mean this guy is at a point where he thinks rebranding a social media site that has been widely known to the public with one name, and one name only for YEARS, is a good idea. Let alone to rebrand it to a single fucking letter. Because why not? Kill your user base apparently.
What the hell happened to him? I understand why people dislike him now. As do I. But dude. How can someone fall from greatness like that? Being seen as the next Steve Jobs, flaws and all. To just a shadowy figure of himself? What made him go fucking insane and gain that huge ego?
To the people that would comment, “Well he’s always been like that he just shows it now”, I don’t believe it. When you have such massive egotistical and narcissistic traits, you could give two shits about showing it. He would’ve done so his whole career if he was like this. I’m not saying he NEVER had an ego, but it wasn’t anywhere fucking near the levels of where it is now.
“We were on the verge of greatness, we were THIS close!”
He’s always been this bad, he just had enough people around him that sanitized everything we saw about him. There’s reports of teams at Tesla dedicated to keeping him out of the way. His Twitter was sane probably because it wasn’t actually him running it.
It truly is a case of he’s always been this bad, it’s just not being hidden anymore. I’m pretty sure he went off the rails during covid and stopped listening to anyone but himself. He’s shown glimpses of this through his career, most people just ignored it as eccentric billionaire though.
Just like Kanye appeared to fall off the deep end, musk also looks like it was sudden, when in fact it’s been a growing sentiment over the years.
Kanye has bipolar that he stopped medicating though. Otherwise I agree
And honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if Musk had some sort of condition he’s not being medicated for anymore. Or at least some kind of therapy that he stopped doing.
Nah, as someone said above, he just broke free from the people managing him and fits persona.
He probably should be on some medication and therapy, but I doubt he ever was.
Kanya may have bp, but he’s always been a douche.
BP is an explanation, not an excuse. OP is perplexed about how Musk is “suddenly” a jerk, which doesn’t have an easy explanation like BP. Kanye definitely seems to have gotten worse in the last few years, but I don’t know if the pro hitler thing was just well hidden before
That’s totally fair, and I didn’t mean imply that it was an excuse, just was saying that some people are just assholes regardless of mental illness.
I’m seriously so glad to see so many people who never fell for it here. The rich are not your damn friend, they are not here to help you.
All these rich people lost their minds during Covid because they were treated like common people.
Musk got a lot of fans by driving the electric car revolution, but he really was always a d-bag. It just got excused or swept under the rug.
The first public crack in the armor really came in 2019 when he inserted himself in the Thailand cave rescue effort in the worst way. Then in 2020, he basically declared himself a public health expert and spread plenty of COVID misinformation.
But well before that, his first marriage was apparently pretty awful: https://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/a5380/millionaire-starter-wife/
He’s always believed that population collapse is a huge problem. He comes from a big family, and has lots of kids himself.
His management style is also pretty terrible: https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-management-leadership-style-at-tesla-spacex-2022-4
Just gotta clarify here.
A member of the Thai government request help from Elon/SpaceX. Elon responded with a viable solution in a few days by putting all his best people from SpaceX and Tesla on it, then sending them to Thailand with what they’d built. Then the cave-diver was asked about Elons proposal on national TV, and he said Elon should shove it up his arse.
The cave-diver was the one who started slinging insults unprovoked, which is why he lost the case.
His greatest skill has been taking credit. He finally ran out of the accomplishments of others.
He had little to do with Tesla, aside from naming the models so they would spell S3XY and using shitty off-the-shelf components not designed for use in cars that are now failing in many vehicles. He literally bought the title of “founder” from the people that actually founded Tesla, Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning.
SpaceX is the work of Tom Mueller (former TRW engineer), Gwynne Shotwell (former The Aerospace Corporation engineer), and Chris Thompson far more than Elon Musk.
Go back further, and you find his family owned an emerald mine. Paypal was far and away more the work of Peter Thiel, who merged his business with Musk’s online financial services company X.com (if you wonder where that came from). He got super rich selling out to eBay. His one business, Zip2, was just good luck selling it out also during the Dot Com bubble (I mean, seriously, it was bought for $305m by Compaq to help AltaVista). Essentially, the emerald mine funded Zip2, which he sold in 1999 to fund X.com, which became Paypal, which he sold in 2002. Since then, the millions he got from that sale funded SpaceX and Tesla.
And to be frank, he wants more power, and he saw how quickly Trump was able to manipulate people. So he dropped the mask and adopted Trump’s modus operandi.
Elon Musk is Repeating his Mistakes
Interesting recap of his earlier years.
Buddy, you fell for the PR machine. Back in 2002 when Elmo was thinking about what to do with his ill gained money in order to
scam the us governmentmake more money he wanted to rely on a futuristic sort of image to raise capital. We came from the turn of the millennium but nothing futuristic had actually materialized. Mind you, not utopia futurism but more like rugged individualism dystopia futurism. Then in 2008 a movie came out, IronMan, starring Robert Downey Jr. And Musk thought that everyone liked that guy and if he presented himself that way—he owned a space launch company after all—then people would like him and he would be able to raise more money. Hence the hair implants (he was balding before) and Tesla self-driving (it was just electric cars before), and SpaceX to mars (originally it was just a fund sink to do something useful with all soviet era rockets), brain implants, etc. Along with it came a blitz PR campaign. The Muskrat didn’t have a significant public presence before 2010, no one knew who he was other than some eccentric billionaire who owned things nerds liked. Electric cars, and rockets. So he and a few publicists for hire pushed him hard into the public eye as the real life Tony Stark. That’s it.Cut to 6 years later, no more publicists. You see, he wanted more publicity, the way he acquired it was by inserting himself in any conversation he could. But as a any narcissist, Musk thinks himself perfect and incapable of any wrong doing, any fault is someone’s else and everyone are just dead weight dragging him down. So when he wanted to insert himself into the Thailand cave tragedy, Tesla’s PR, who doubled as his personal PR, told him please don’t. He called a guy a pedophile and fired the PR (“all the PR my companies need is me as their CEO”). He came from 6 years where everything he said was applauded by the public and anything he commanded was done. Then he
paid to bewas declared the richest man on earth. Nothing rubs the narcissist’s ego like being publicly acknowledge as what they think themselves to be. But this means all self-restrain was off and without any external constrains, his true self has come to be publicly known.Yup, this is exactly what happened.
Maybe I’m the odd one out but I can’t take any “take” seriously when people can’t just use names. I’ve seen “Elaine” and now “Elmo” and “Muskrat”.
Look at WhatASave Dave over here, simping for Space Karen and trying to claim the moral high ground at the same time.
When was that cave-in in Asia where he proposed using a submarine to get them out, divers got them out instead, and he call the heroic divers pedophiles? That was the time I realized he was crazy.
Yeah, that was 2018 and I feel like opinions have gone steadily downhill since then.
That’s when it clicked for me too. Now knowing about the hyperloop existing just to kill a public transport bill, it’s infuriating that I didn’t see it before. He played us good for a looong while.
Didn’t he specifically call the diver who died in the rescue attempt a pedo? Could be misremembering
I don’t remember any of them dying.
Had to look up his name, it was Saman Kunan who was a former Thai navy seal; he was lining the cave route with oxygen bottles when ironically he ran out and fell unconscious and died.
I was wrong though, it was actually one of the British cave divers working on the rescue that his pedo comment was directed towards.
Oh! I forgot about that death. Very sad. Yeah, different guy but same rescue.
2018, 5 years ago. Here’s a great documentary about it (with only one sentence mentioning the narcissist).
Feels like a lot longer ago than 2 years ago… wait.
He’s always been like this.
https://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/a5380/millionaire-starter-wife/
That’s the story of his first wife Justine. What kind of normal person would ever tell his girlfriend that “I’m the alpha in this relationship?”
If you have to tell somebody you’re the alpha, then you’re definitely not the alpha.
He didn’t change. You just got older and now recognise him for the childish idiot he is.
He called divers, who tried to rescue children, pedophiles because they wouldn’t use his shitty gear. That was in 2018.
I was at first excited when he talked about Mars, but now that I know he can’t even run a social media platform I definitely wouldn’t wanna trust him with my life
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Come, join the adventure to Planet X!
I am sure people will follow and not call it Mars anymore.
Sorry dude, he was Paypal mafia. He has never been anything but a rich kid playing with money - it has just been a very congenial environment for the already rich for some time. I know it’s hard to accept that you were just colossally taken in by a huckster, but that is really what happened.
He fired his PR handler in like '17 or '18. That person probably couldn’t have ever been paid enough money, and this is probably a bigger mistake for him than spending 44 billies on twitter.
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Elon had a PR team. A really good PR team, that made him seem like real-life Tony Stark. His PR team was so good that Elon himself started to believe in their lies, so he got rid of them. Now we see his real self.
Is there actually evidence of this? I’ve heard it a lot, but not sure if it’s just a rumour.
I couldn’t find any evidence of it. I think he just did cool things and we used to be impressed
His lies caught up to him. From his ridiculous tunnels, his crypto pump and dump scam, his robotaxis, to taking humanity to Mars. The lies just collapsed and revealed they were empty promises all along. Hell, even his solar panels were a trick, and the goddamn truck. Not to mention the FSD that will never really work as promised because the tech just isn’t there.
I think you are suffering from rose colored glasses syndrome. Elon has always been a horrible human, always will be a horrible human, and deserves all the criticism he gets. Doing 1 good thing while simultaneously doing 1,000 horrible things doesn’t make you great.
Your thought that he was such a great guy just a few years ago, why do you think that? He made an electric car? He made rockets that can land themselves? He made an online only bank? What exactly did he do that made him so great? Cause he didn’t invent any of that, he didn’t have the original ideas, or come up with the original concepts, he just bought them. All he did, is use his inherited wealth to fund investments, that he then used profits from to fund other investments. He bought companies that already existed. He had the capital to invest. So it sounds like you are saying that money made him great?
You want to know how great of a person he was behind closed doors? It’s an easy metric to quantify. How many kids does he have, and by how many partners? Now, why do so many of those kids or partners want nothing to do with him? Could it be cause he’s always been a horrible douche bag, and always has been?
I don’t think he ever was a great person, but social media also has the power to radicalize people. It doesn’t matter if you are rich or smart or anything, using too much social media exposes you to being radicalized, in any direction
He is the next Steve Jobs. Go read the official autobiography of Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson to understand how it’s more true now than ever. Spoiler: Steve Jobs was a crazy narcissistic piece of shit.
I always thought Elon Musk was the Tony Stark of our time. Boy was I wrong!
