edit: “Balkanised” is probably the right word, partition means to divide territory between two other states. If the US did break apart in pieces (probably in some sort of dystopian/everyone is going to die world), i wonder if other countries will try to nab bits of it (e.g. Britain regaining their colonies, Mexico regaining their lost territories, Spain regaining Florida, or even Russia taking over Alaska)
note: I am not advocating for the partition of the US, it’s just fun to think about new countries! Also, I’m not American and have never been there so I have no clue about the different cultures in the different states.
If the US broke up into multiple pieces in some way or another, what new countries would you want to appear? (with and without considering for the feasibility of such new countries) What would their relations be like with each other and with other countries?
Personally, I would think New York (the city) becoming an independent microstate would be kind of cool, like the Vatican City of the stock market. The idea of “Cascadia” (which, to my knowledge, includes California, Oregon, and one other I forgot the name of. I think a bit of Canada too. The west coast, right?) could be realised, and with California, they would have a very beefy economy, as well as Silicon Valley. An independent Alaskan state could also be interesting, especially since they have a cool flag. Same goes for Texas.
I’m glad we made it into the USC, but for the record, Pennsylvania is PA not PN.
It’s currently PA; the abbreviation will be one of the first changes.
I didn’t make the graphic, I just stole/hotlinked it. I am very familiar with PA, although it’s main redeeming quality is that it’s not New Jersey.
They also screwed up Maryland (should be MD not MY)
As a Washingtonian, I approve and would welcome our kindly benevolent and woefully apologetic new rulers with open arms.
“United States” of Canada? Why not just “Canada”?
Because it’s good for cohesion.
Well you are uniting multiple states, it’s in the name.
I don’t think you could call it Jesusland, taking the LORD’s name in vain and all that.
Christchurch though? Totally acceptable. Pretty sure that’s a city in Texas. Or, take the Aramaic (language Christ spoke) word(s) for “promised land” and Anglify it.
Anyway, which would your capitols be? I’m thinking maybe Dallas for “Jesusland” — it’s in Texas, and it’s far enough inland to miss a lot of hurricane damage that gets Houston right on the coast — and maybe keep Ottawa for USC. Except it’s not very centrally located… still might be their best bet since it exists. I sure wouldn’t put it in California (too many wildfires/earthquakes). I was kinda thinking British Columbia though (north of Washington State, bordering the Pacific). Like Vancouver maybe. Lovely area.
So fun thing about vanity, that historically refers to asking God for petty things that God would not care about.
Like winning a basketball game, or the lottery. It’s “vanity” to assume God would give a bother about things so unimportant just because YOU asked. Because whether or not you win is (theoretically) more about practice and application than divine intervention.
Though, obviously modern Americans don’t give a shit about what the words in the book actually fucking mean. They’re still likely to call it Jesusland, as likely as anything else, because even with the modern definition, they’re not likely to actually care. THEY are God’s chosen, and therefore THEY have special rules to go along with their special connection to Christ.
You may not blaspheme, though. You may not exist in their presence so long as you are not pious, upstanding, and white cis Christian. Though they wouldn’t call you cis, that’s for some reason a slur in Jesusland.
Fun fact, Jesus never been in that land.
Poor Colorado fed to the wolves
Jesusland got to keep Alaska as an exclave, so Colorado could be an enclave (maybe also include the blue bits of NM). I also feel like Jesusland shouldn’t legally be allowed to have a place that calls itself “Sin City”, so might as well add Clark County NV to the blue side. Perhaps the same treatment for the parts of Virginia right around DC, or St. Louis, since they’re right on the border.
Alaska may vote red but they are not conservative at all. Pro weed and pro abortion are just one example of why it would not actually fit in with Jesusland.
Fuck yeah I can watch hockey night in Canada, in Boston. Let’s do it.
Life-long Oregonian here, Cascadia needs to happen! Majority want it and we are sick of being held back by people we share 0 common interest, morality, culture ect… with. The United States is too huge and its ridiculous. Even the accents are slowly changing language over time. Plus, how the hell am I supposed to feel a sense of connection to some dude in Wyoming!? No offense to Wyoming but my state couldn’t be further from that life… Going to Amsterdam felt like what Portland Oregon would be if it wasnt held back by crappy surrounding red policy and federal toxicity.
Cascadia.
Erase all federal and state government, only leave existing town boundaries and muncipal law. Every town must hold elections that year. Towns will then naturally start to work together via commerce, cultural and geographical ties and can create their own collectives/states. Or maybe they will become related and a part of Mexico or Canada and that’s fine too. Just have a rule that any town that hasn’t become part of another country must donate 5% of their tax income for a small military defense force.
That’s a funny fantasy world.
Read up about the Holy Roman Empire. Not sure that’s something I’d sign up for.
That’s a pretty large subject, anything in particular?
That’s kinda the point. The HRE was a gigantic federation of vassal states that had a bunch of decentralized authorities for centuries. It was a huge mess to understand how anything was done. If you think federal/state/local/municipal government is complicated, imagine trying to get anything done in the HRE system. I genuinely couldn’t summarize or give any realistic explanation, because I just cannot wrap my head around the particulars lol.
With the modern invention of passports, air travel, trains, and cars (all of which came after the fall of the HRE) I can’t see how any travel would be possible if each municipality was the strongest form of government.
Mega-City One.
The east coast. When I lived in New York, I thought we could do better on our own. Now that I’m near Boston, I know New England could. But you know what? We really have a lot in common all the way down to DC, and the DC suburbs of Virginia.
Acela is not just a transportation system connecting us all, but a result of our shared values, wanting a better connection. We’re a huge percentage of the population and the economy. We’re mostly “donor” states instead of “takers” so our economy would be solid. We’re mostly “blue” except New Hampshire and Pennsyltucky, seeing the value of good education, caring about our citizens quality of life. And yes we’re mostly the parts of the country built out long ago so have in common many traditional town centers and relatively fewer car centered hellscapes. Many parts of the east coast have been derided as “European”: let’s embrace that
Make Louisiana Purchase Again!
A single massive swath of Missouri River Basin, containing roughly the population of California and Texas combined.
LPT could effectively break off, form it’s own country and win the upcoming water wars alone.
New California Republic, just south of Vault City.
Cascadia.
The idea of “Cascadia” (which, to my knowledge, includes California, Oregon, and one other I forgot the name of.
CA, OR, WA, and
I think a bit of Canada too.
A section of Canada larger than those three states put together, you mean. The remainder would almost perfectly contain South Carolina.
Colorado. Except it isn’t a rectangle, but follows the Colorado river watershed from headwaters to the ocean.
I also want Colorado, but for it to be an even bigger rectangle, the biggest it can possibly be. I’m willing to give up some Mexican territory for this one.
