This is a weird ass pie chart using the US map as a base right? If I am correct then this is a terrible way to display this data.
I kind of like it tbh
I like seeing the area.
I’m glad this community is following in the tradition of the reddit one, ugly graphics that communicate nothing useful yet somehow get upvoted to the top
Yeah, this is a pretty appalling graphic that maybe seemed good in theory but is hostile to the reader in practice.
Why? It gives people a relatable size and shape to compare to. Like saying the 100 richest landowners own equivalent to Florida.
Has anyone started c/terriblemaps yet?
i really do not understand how anyone can be confused by this, obviously it’s not a geographical map because new mexico does not contain the sum total of all american railways…
It’s a fine graph that gives an intuitive sense for how much area is used for each thing.
This seems like it was developed as a joke. Not what I’m looking for in a data-oriented forum.
Seems like I’m getting 3 reactions to this map:
- Neat map
- I don’t understand this map
- I will find you and kill your family for this crime against data
I’d say put me under #3, but I’d need you to draw me a map and we all know how that went last time
Thanks for putting out what is at least an interesting and engaging graphic for us to comment on! I myself have two of the three reactions you listed
Because everyone else is shitting on it - I just wanna let you know OP that I actually liked this map
Why isn’t parking on here?
!fuck_cars@lemmy.ml is leaking.
Oh great, the “everyone lives in cities and I have no concept of rural living” people are here now too.
Awww, ya’ll are butthurt and downvoting me for pointing out not everyone has access to mass transportation or reliable shopping within three blocks of their house.
Rual, as in my lively hood is based on the land I live on/near or “rual” as in a suburb built in the green way, but I still do the rest of my work and living in the city?
Rural as in the nearest town with more than 30,000 people is 90 miles away.
The “80% of the us population” crowd is here. So cringe.
Yeah, cause fuck those of us who don’t live in cities, right?
More like “what if people living in cities didn’t have to depend on a car”
“And screw those rural types who need one in the process”
That was the first thing I was looking for too.
I was looking for the people shocked 100 Americans basically own Florida, that’s a whole European country there
Until fairly recently, i.e. the last 150 years, only a handful of people owned all of europe too.
Oh no they still do, they just hide it better lol XD
Touché
expected more corn
That entire block that says “ethanol” is corn, plus that entire block that says corn syrup, and a good chunk of that block that says “livestock feed”. It’s a lot of corn.
It’s in there, it’s just split up between food we eat, livestock feed, feed exports, ethanol, and corn syrup. Not all those categories are all corn but even then corn will be a lot of it.
Right?
It’s completely missing North Dakota which, when I visited was mostly corn. This is misleading at best.
I have examined this abstraction of a map thoroughly.
I do not see any garbage dumps, recycling facilities, sewage processing, cemeteries, energy production, water production…
I could carry on, but this map means almost nothing with all sorts of factors missing.
Without digging in to the numbers further than just looking at this map, could this be because the relative areas of the factors you listed didn’t pass a threshold to make it? @ezmack what data source was used for this?
Bloomberg article https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2018-us-land-use/#xj4y7vzkg
Not OP, but I’d think cemeteries should outweigh golf courses in land area.
Feel free to prove me wrong though.
I think you might underestimate golf course land use, as well as miss that a lot of that mightve just been counted with the surrounding neighborhoods, since that’s more of a community service
Urban-commercial
its also missing the fact that tons of animal pastures is on federal land.
Those take up less space than you’d think
Well, I grew up on 60 acres with like 18 horses and 25 goats. Can’t say I’ve visited every farm out there to know how large or how cramped they might be.
“Food we eat” is half the size of “livestock feed”. Plus look at how small wetlands/deserts are, wetlands especially are essential to climate resillience. What egregiously bad land use, wow. Thanks for this post, it’s great.
It takes 76% less land for us to just eat plants, rather than to grow them to feed to animals that we then in turn eat. Really amazing how inefficient it is.
I resent the hell out of that golf pimple.
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Valid point.
Sounds like we need to make a c/fuckgolf
You must live in Augusta too, huh?
the amount of land for cows is crazy. and the fact that more land goes to livestock feed than food we eat is interesting as well
The conversion losses to feed animals is very high. It takes 76% less land for us to subsist on plants rather than to eat meat. Well, actually, that’s the world average, it might be even higher in the US because of its higher meat consumption. I should check the study again.
But I feel like land for cows is akin to food we eat because we eat a lot of those cows also.
Thanks for giving me a shitty graph and then a source to a paywalled article.
Here’s non-paywall https://web.archive.org/web/20230316140810/https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2018-us-land-use/
Anytime
I’m curious why first nation reservations weren’t demarcated. Or maybe they were and I’m just an idiot lol.
This doesn’t show where these uses are located on a map, just the area of land relative to the total country.
It is absolutely blowing my mind how many people are looking at this and thinking that is trying to show, like, primary land use per block on the map or something?
Like it’s well-known that maple syrup comes exclusively from northwest PA, plus all the logging that happens in downtown San Francisco and LA.
Every single home is in the northeast
Disgusting how much space Golf takes up.
Plenty of courses are perfectly fine uses of land. The bigger problem are those lush, luxury courses out in the FUCKING DESERT. Seriously fuck every course between LA and Phoenix.
California also uses their lands for wildfires, they even have a fire season now. Don’t forget to give credit where credit is due!
Okay, but wouldn’t that be better labeled under “Gender Reveals”?
Funny things if there was regular controlled fire, there would have none wildfire…
I wonder how bad it’ll get before we get some kind of prescribed burn policy. Smoky summers suuuuck. Having your house or town burn down in an out of control wildfire sucks even more.
They already exist all over the western US. In AZ the majority of smokey days come from prescription burns or natural fires that the forest service manage like a prescribed burn
