• Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world
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    Peter Thiel is what I call a “Roman Gay.” He isn’t gay because he likes men. He is gay because he hates women.

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      Hey, now that’s not fair!

      He probably hates everybody 😉

      But yes he almost certainly is a misogynist on top of everything else. It’s like when people claim to be an equal opportunity hater. You can be a miserable asshole and also be a racist/sexist/classist piece of shit. In fact there’s a good chance Thiel is all of the above. Life is a rich tapestry that way, and people are complicated.

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    That’s cool but like Mike Honda is 84 years old so why is he part of this conversation

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      Lmao this is the dumbest fucking take I’ve ever read

      Btw here is “crotchety old” Mike Honda back in 2016 explaining who has always controlled “progressive” Ro Kahnna

      Why is Mike Honda relevant to this conversation? Bc while Ro Kahnna was praising Thiel for doing what we all just saw reluctant “liberal” Bari Weiss repeat in 2025, Mike Honda was trying to warn us that Peter Thiel is ghost writing “progressive” policy and manipulating the press to ensure the window drifts even further to the right and locks us all into inescapable authoritarianism.

      Conservatives so drunk on power they’re literally just saying the quiet part out loud now without fear of consequence: Palantir CEO Says a Surveillance State Is Preferable to China Winning the AI Race. Oh and by the way, we’re pretty clearly staging a coup to install our own Senate leader within the Democratic party.

      You: Pssh, Mike Honda? He old.

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        Because being a good person does not make him fit for office. He’s 15-20 years past what any reasonable retirement age should be.

        That doesn’t mean kahanna or whatever isn’t a bought shit bag either.

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    22 hours ago

    “Impressed by his founding of PayPal and early backing of Facebook” brother those aren’t qualities.

    “Yes he spoke at the GOP convention but have yoh considered these other ways that he’s an asshole elite?”

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      Yes! He is the worst kind of fraud.

      He pushed for the U.S. to finally recognize Palestine as a state… while also holding stock in Palantir.

      Like if I could draw that as a cartoon, it would be Ro Kahnna holding a gun to the head of Palestine with one hand, and a sack with a dollar sign in the other while giving a speech about the U.S. having ignored human rights abuses for far too long.

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    Wow, Ro. Just wow. That’s an absofuckinglute masterclass you put on, licking the Antichrist’s boots. Cloves? Talons? Whatever

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    Having listened to a podcast highlighting Thiel’s life in great detail, anything he is involved with has to be taken with an oceans’ worth of salt.

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      Fwiw…

      If an oceans worth of salt, that means there’s a lot of substance to be considered (seasoned).

      It’s “grain of salt” because there’s not a lot to it (to be seasoned).

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        It seems like the prevailing theory is that it’s a Latin pun where “salis” means both salt and wit/intelligence/sense.

        More “salt” would be more “sense”.

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        Except that salt negates bitter flavors. So if you have a bitter pill to swallow, you take it with a grain of salt and it isn’t as bad.

        Thiel is involved in shit so bitter that it would take an ocean’s worth of salt to swallow.

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            You obviously don’t know how salt works.

            https://www.nature.com/articles/42388

            Besides, the actual origin of “take with a grain of salt” comes from Pliny the Elder, who believed salt to be part of a cure for poison.

            His actual words were “addito salis grano” or add a grain of salt.

            He believed this because salt suppresses bitter flavors and most poisonous things taste fairly bitter.

            The phase “cum grano salis” or with a grain of salt, then entered latin, and eventually a few other languages.

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        Man, to this day the phrase “take it with a grain of salt” makes no sense to me. For one, I see people use the phrase(as above) as adding a singular grain of salt… which wouldn’t do anything. But if, as suggested here, it’s more to point out that further seasoning and/or flavoring isn’t required, then what… what? Are we eating information? What does that even mean? If it’s seasoned, then why does that mean I should be skeptical? If someone makes something I would be skeptical of, why tf would I eat it?

        I actually looked this up because it was(still is) driving me crazy. A possible origin of the phrase goes back to Pliny the Elder adding a grain of salt to a poisin antidote. Maybe it was to make the antidote easier to ingest(which, once again, a singular grain wouldn’t make a difference, so it’s possible that it’s a pinch)? So we’re skeptical of the antidote when we’re calling the info given poisin??? But it could also be the case that a popular myth was that a pinch of salt neutralized poison, possibly referring to a misunderstanding of Pliny the Elder’s recipe. But if something is poisoned, don’t fucking eat/drink it? Like seriously, if someone you don’t trust gives you food/drink that you think could be poisoned, and we even temporarily grant that a grain/pinch of salt neutralizes the pain, it STILL doesn’t make sense, because why would you accept anything from that person at all if you think they’re trying to kill you??? ALSO ONCE AGAIN, ARE WE EATING INFORMATION IN THIS HYPOTHETICAL??? WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?

        And then I’ve seen the camp of using salt as a currency, leaning into the value aspect of it, suggesting adding a singular grain of salt finally gives it value(which, like… is that what you mean?). Since the phrase is supposed to invoke skepticism, I’d imagine the value measured is truth? So if the salt you take the information with is skepticism, then how does the skepticism alter the truth value? And, again, if the information is worthless don’t buy it for any price, same as don’t eat the fucking poisin. At least in this scenario we’re not eating information.

        In any case, and even aside from whether or not the idiom even makes sense, I don’t understand why the phrase is even used at all to advise skepticism since any usage I’ve ever heard or read of it is clearly(to me) redundant and/or unwarranted. “This comment comes from [unreliable source], so take it with a grain of salt.” Yeah? It’s an unreliable source. If someone already knew, the added idiom is kinda insulting. If someone didn’t know or disagreed(that it’s unreliable), then the added idiom only serves to add confusion. “The numbers may look promising, but take it with a grain of salt.” Okay? Yeah, obviously don’t draw conclusions from just “the numbers” as there’s always more to whatever form of statistical analysis this hypothetical is, but it’s totally unclear what the idiom is even trying to say. The numbers lie? The numbers are an anomaly? The source is unreliable? It actually looks bad if you look closer? And if it’s to point out that it could be any of those things and more, well no shit, bro. Once again, if someone already knows to be skeptical, it’s insulting and unwarranted, if someone doesn’t know to be skeptical, they need to be informed of the reason to be skeptical before “be skeptical” makes any sense. It’s functionally useless.

        I don’t get it. I don’t get the appeal, I don’t understand how’s it’s supposed to mean what it’s supposed to mean, even granting that language and phrases evolve in strange ways. I don’t understand how and why people use it. I don’t understand how people see logic in it. I dunno, maybe I’m the idiot here.

        TL;DR: Please stop eating information, thank you. I don’t understand the phrase, so take it with a grain of salt(?).

        • chaogomu@lemmy.world
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          Two things. Salt suppresses bitter flavors. Most poisonous things are bitter.

          This suppression works even when you can’t taste the salt.

          this is why you need to salt your eggplant slices before grilling them.

          Anyway, another element is that salis, the Roman word for salt, also means wit or intelligence, but more wit.

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    Chuck’s defense team out in full force today huh? Pathetic, just like him.

    Khanna is the leader of the dem progressive caucus. It’s his job to publicly, forcefully call for Schumer to resign after such an incredible betrayal of the American people in favor of corporate interests. And Chucklefuck needs to get out of the way, because there is a massive sea change in politics now in favor of populist policies and he is in the way. We should stick Schumer in one of Cuomo’s covid infested retirement homes if you ask me.

    Digging up tweets from 2016 to pretend he’s some modern day ball licker of Thiel’s? Ok, sure, very relevant. I suppose you also think Graham Platner is a Nazi b/c he got a tattoo 20 years ago as a young dumbass?

    Ro invested 10k in Palantir, who gives a shit he’s a millionaire like all of Congress and is invested in all kinds of shit, especially stuff he knows will be getting massive gov’t contracts. Don’t like it? Ask Pelosi to pass the STOCK act before she leaves. Ro has, consistently. He’s also the first Justice Dem, and has never taken corporate pac money. He’s not corrupted by the likes of Thiel, while Schumer very much is.

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      Look at the membership of the “progressive caucus”, it’s not like they have to actually support progressive policies to use the label when they feel it’ll help themselves.

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      Ro invested 10k in Palantir, who gives a shit

      🥾👅😋 Yummy

      Btw, maybe you wipe your ass with $10k, but that’s a lot of blood money to some people

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        Well reasoned counter argument, as expected.

        Anyway, regarding your edit - I never said $10k was chump change for regular people, but for those in Congress, it is. Sorry if you’re mad over it, but that’s a fact. For almost everyone there, the whole point is to get rich off insider trading and bribe money.

        Ro doesn’t take those bribes, and I don’t fault him for making a few relatively small trades for stuff he knows will be mooning. If you don’t like it, pressure your reps to ban congressional trading, like I do mine.

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    I didn’t see Chuck Schumer on the list of 8 democrats that voted against party lines for the government shutdown. But he seems to be getting blamed for it here on lemmy.

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      Because there’s basically two possibilities here, both bad:

      1. He had nothing to do with it, which means he has no control over what his own caucus is doing. That’s a failure of leadership, so he needs to go.
      2. He was involved behind the scenes, but was too chickenshit to put his vote on record. Not only is that a betrayal of everyone who is about to get fucked by their medical premiums, it’s also abject cowardice, so he still needs to go.

      Of course, he reportedly was actually involved behind the scenes.

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      It just so happens that no one who voted is up for reflection next year and will likely not face any consequences. Very convenient.