My family’s legal documents are being kept somewhere at home, and its kinda weird to think about, like zero security, I doubt its even fireproof, definitely not waterproof, some flood is gonna destroy it.
My sister inherited my dad’s big fireproof gun safes and things like birth certificates are in there (at this point maybe they should be on our person).
Papers, please.
Yea… I feel like this isn’t just one country, as technology gets more developed, every government now wants to use more biometrics, face scanning, fingerprinting, mandatory ID. Eventually, we might DNA checkpoints to verify people.
And eventually everyone will be identified by a chip in their hand or or picture of your face. Sounds too much like the mark of the beast. Right? Thousands of years old prophecy. Not gonna do it. I dont want to do it least.
I don’t think they’ll give you an option to opt out.
In China, for example, you need ID for even for just a domestic train ticket. Random checkpoints are common, especially after Covid. I heard from my aunt that they do QR code contact tracing, but there are also (western) reports of dissidents randomly had their QR code “turn red” which prevented then from travelling.
Eventually, western countries will do the same.
We’re cooked.
Unless? 🤔 (France 1789? 👀)
That is scary stuff to me. Losing most freedoms. And I hope to go to heaven when im done here. I dont necessarily want to go around again. Especially if its sn authoritarian hellscape, nuclear war and whatever
Edit: I have a theory that maybe people reincarnate if they dont go to heaven after they die, for whatever reason. Maybe, Like, they didn’t believe in Jesus, or they werent willing to sacrifice themselves for something greater than themselves. The importance of being able to die for something that is greater than self is the last and greatest lesson Jesus ever taught.
And probably yes to the France thing
Banks have made it really difficult to rent safety deposit boxes lately. It used to be a common account benefit but I can’t find any within a reasonable distance of me since 2023, and none which are included as an account benefit. A fireproof safe is good enough and the types of documents I put in it aren’t truly irreplaceable anyways, just really hard/annoying to replace. I doubt many people use their fireproof safe for truly valuable items that would be attractive to thieves. My fireproof safe doesn’t even have a proper lock.
Keep in mind that many “fireproof” safes misrepresent their capabilities and the fireproofing itself can severely damage or destroy safe contents in a fire.
Tl;dr: the contents slow cook and soak in a mixture of water and whatever else was present for hours to days. Depending on the severity and duration of the fire, plastics will melt, metals will tarnish, and unprotected paper, wood, and similar contents will be destroyed.
Most more affordable safes are fireproofed via a layer of drywall material. Drywall is composed of gypsum, otherwise known as calcium sulfate dihydrate: CaSO4·2H2O .
The fireproofing doesn’t come from any direct insulating properties but the hydration of the gypsum. When exposed to enough heat, the water bound to calcium sulfate begins to unbind and boil out. The interior of the safe will remain at 100°C or less as the external heat energy from the fire is absorbed by this dehydration/phase change process, releasing water as steam.
This turns your safe into a big steamer/(low) pressure cooker. The safe boils during the fire, then sits and “cooks” for hours afterwards as the area cools down. The safe keypad will be inoperative, so you’ll be reliant on the backup key working. If that mechanism is damaged, the manufacturer or a locksmith will need to open it. No matter what, the contents will remain in a hot, damp environment for hours to days.
I put everything in our fire safe in silicone bags so I hope that does the trick.
That’s exactly what I’d recommend! The contents will crisp long before a quality silicone bag will.
Yeah, though our hard drive backup will fairly quickly become trash, I think.
Probably, but it’s the good ol’ cost-benefit analysis. It’ll survive so much longer than if it wasn’t protected at at all, but the next-level fire protection that would increases its chances is really expensive.
Important documents and hard drives with photos are in a fire- and water-proof safe. It’s also just easier to find them since we never move it anywhere so passports and certs are all in there.
Well, I do I have tucked into a random bookshelf one of those “World Atlas” book safes that everyone already knows is a storage box and not a book, because they’ve been sold virtually unchanged as far as I can tell since at least the early 1990s. As a little treat to anyone observant who notices this and thinks they’re so damn clever, inside I have nothing but a scaled down 3D printed replica of a cinder block.
It is astoundingly unlikely anyone will find where my valuables are actually hidden in my house, nor am I going to admit it on the internet.
I don’t use either, I have a small plastic folder for kinda important documents but tbh I can’t really think of any documents I would actually need that are not fairly easy to get replaced.
Single person, living alone in a 1 bedroom apartment. Even I have a small fire safe.
Gun safe. Water proof, fire proof and locked. 200 lbs won’t be walking out so easily.
My mom bought me a fireproof safe because she was giving me some jewelry to hold for my kids, and she also had some documents for me to keep.
It sat on the floor under a bed for years. Then I decided to get appraisals of the jewelry to add it to my homeowners insurance.
When I opened the safe, everything in it was moist and moldy.
Nothing important was lost or damaged, but it was nasty as hell.
At least it was safe
Badumching
^rimshot
I have a home safe that doesn’t lock properly. To replace it would cost me everything that I’d put in a home safe.
Nice try, Danny Ocean.
Most of my legal documents can be reproduced easily or they are in a folder I can take with me. Apart from that I don’t own anything of value.
For guns, I picked up a decent one from a government surplus auction. The keypad had a couple numbers that didn’t work and someone cut out the battery holder. But 10 bucks fixed both of those. So I got a $500 safe for about $45.
Less about burglars or fires and more about curious young hands.
I live alone but I have a gun safe because in my state if I get robbed and can’t demonstrate that I did my due dilligence to protect the guns from theives I could end up getting arrested
Dont actually talk about this stuff man. Its not the nerds that care where your important stuff is, or that you are in possession of it, but they are selling that information to someone that might do something. Actual thugs. The guy who brag posted -in this thread- about a big heavy safe… so dumb, thats exactly what they want to hear. There are literal safe cracking gangs. Its only TV but have you seen sons of anarchy? There are these people out there. So many bored degenerates that also have a lot of money, somehow.
Its great to have a safe, just dont volunteer the info to strangers on the internet maybe. This is the voice of reason.
If they’re competent enough to find me and crack my safe they can find better things to rob than my $300 10-22
Turn off your VPN and ill tell ya your general location
IP geo location is broken as fuck. In my case “general location” is a completely different state.
Open your blinds and ill tell you your hair color!
Oh I can see you in… new york!
This is not a thing one should answer in a public forum.
He might not rob us. He might know who/where to sell this information though, and they might burgle rape and pillage
Shhhh 🤫 you’re ruining my burglary plans
Jokes on … whoever. My legal documents are not in one place I can’t even find them when I need to.
