I don’t want any US deal, at all. I want sovereignty and democracy above all and that means cutting the US out of our supply chains. Lets get cross border trade to zero.
I don’t buy from or sell to fascists and I don’t take threats lightly.
I don’t either. I think we should be totally closing the borders, and kicking off the start of their decline. If you look at the history books, it tells you not to basically turn them economically inside out, but the history books also tell you not to appease them, so honestly I’d go with the former not the latter.
I want sovereignty and democracy above all
Well, so did the Iraqis and the Afghanis and the Libyans and the Palestinians. Nevertheless, I think we can all agree that Americans will be greeted as liberators.
Lets get cross border trade to zero.
Practically speaking, that’s impossible. The actual population of Canada is distributed in a thin smear over the tops of the US, primarily clustered in major metro areas that pair with American cities. Trying to divide Detroit and Windsor or Toronto and Buffalo would be about as easy as dividing Ft. Worth from Dallas, or Laredo, TX from Nuevo Laredo, Mexico.
Virtually no one living in these communities actually wants that. Hell, Canada has its fair share of Trumpies while America has a healthy chunk of New England / Midwestern Polite People. It wouldn’t even be a clean split. You’d need to do some kind of Iraq Civil War Sunni / Shia militant purging to get to where you’re trying to go.
You would have more luck annexing US territory down to 47th parallel than to cut off trade with US border towns.
Let’s do that. The annex thing.
The less we have to do with the US at this point, the better. I understand it may not be feasible to cut ties completely, but let’s keep it to the absolute bare minimum. I’m completely over their bullshit.
We had this, it was called the NAFTA.
Trump canceled it.
Now we call what we have in our house NAFTA: not a fucking thing American
And it was his idea!
I still hate Amerikkka. My boycott lasts a lifetime. Trump or no Trump. We. Are. done.
I am getting more and more concerned about the troop pile up on our borders and this fuck wits rhetoric.
I 100% get that, but I personally don’t think Trump or Hegseth are smart enough to pull off a military operation as complex as infiltrating Canada. To make matters worse (for them), many branches of the military seem to hate their guts.
That said, I’m just some pacifist dope with almost no knowledge of this stuff. If an expert out there wants to scare the shit out of me, I’m ready to learn.
That just means they do it poorly and at enormous cost…
Americans have never been competent.
They also never been brave.
Only country to invoke NATO article 5. But, but, but, NATO bad….
but I personally don’t think Trump or Hegseth are smart enough to pull off a military operation as complex as infiltrating Canada
No, but they are stupid enough to try it anyway.
Agreed, having forces concentrated so close to Vancouver and Toronto (via Portland and Chicago) is unsettling.
Only way we come out of it happy is if the border is permanently closed.
At minimum, we need to secure the border and beef up defences in strategic points. I also think a screening for Americans should be in place and a “no-fly-list” started for American against democracy (IE: almost every republican in office).
First on the list is that fucker who is the US Ambassador to Canada. Pete Hoekstra. We need to ban his fucking ass from entering. He’s an anti-Canada gaslighting old fuck stain
The only merger that will make me happy is that of Trump and a high velocity round.
It doesn’t even have to be high velocity. I’d be ok if someone just pushed it manually into him, maybe with a slide hammer or something.
Canada, you need to cut America off. Full block, no contact. Straight up ignore Trump and his cronies. No more diplomatic visits. Pull your embassy out of the USA. Tell Trump that the US embassy is no longer welcome on Canadian soil and they need to GTFO. I say this as an American. Trump is an absolute narcissist and is incapable of compromise or rational thought. The rest of the world should do this too, including making sure American military bases are no longer welcome on your soil.
Will Carney grow a spine and call on repayment of all US debts to Canada? Will Carney quit disarming Canadians in the event Trump honours his 51st state non-sense so people can defend themselves, their family and their country?
I’m Canadian, I own firearms, I don’t want the 2nd amendment. Nobody does.
What the fuck is he talking about? Is he high??? He must be, because that’s the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard.
No, no… just hear me out… at this point as an American. Perhaps we merge America with Canada instead of Canada with America.
Free healthcare, poutine, learning French in school, the Metric system. I can sign on to that.
Now you’re cooking baby!
He’s high on seeing how far he’s been able to subvert systems of government with social network tech bros at his heel, so he’s going to keep on trying to push the point social networks are trying to impress onto the young and vulnerable. He’s doing it with the cooperation of other authoritarian world leaders who also have a lot to gain from toppling a world order based on rules.
The fuck - no.
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The only merger I’ll have with America in my foot up their ass.
FUCK THE USA! Fuck them with a rusty tin can.
https://x.com/dallairedemers/status/1975614444689629450
$8T Canadian investment into the US over next 5 years?
possible he said A=$1T instead.
$1T is still extraordinary submission. ~9% of GDP/year. Bankrupting golden dome cooperation likely. Makes sure Canada is a necessary nuclear target too.
There’s a point where treasonous oppression makes Canada a shithole country worth leaving.
To clarify, they are talking about foreign direct investment, like Canadian billionaires buying stocks in US companies, which the fed does not directly control, but can incentivize through trade agreements. The US can change their taxes on foreign investment on their side. From the other side, FDI is a reflection of how many shares of US companies are being bought up by non-US investors. The Canadian government does not own foreign stock afaik.
Part of the mind boggling numbers is due to massive inflation of certain US stock valuations in the last few years and related reinvestment of capital gains. For example, if I had $1000 invested in Intel last year after it crashed, it would be worth $2000 now. If I sold that and bought $2000 worth of Nvidia stock, that would count as $1000 net increase in my foreign direct investment, even though I haven’t moved any “new” money into the US. Did Intel suddenly double in its assets or revenue? Hell no, it’s a lot of speculation. People are gambling in the US market or seeking to influence US companies for economic advantage.
I wan’t an explanation for how he can promise to triple existing FDI in US in 5 years. He’d definitely be including US weapons purchases, and more government investment in US owned auto sector. Maybe an OpenAI scam.
Something horribly wrong for him to open his traitorous fuckface without wink wink nudge that he’s just lying to Orange Mussolini.
It’s a complete failure just to have this meeting and promise so much. Instead of making better friends in the world. You’re being too charitable in assuring that this means nothing.
He can’t promise anything about the FDI, it’s not up to him, it’s private investment. Like I said, both sides can make a deal that incentivized FDI. “half a trillion in the past 5 years, probably a trillion in over the next 5” is not exactly the language of a promise.
I don’t necessarily agree with the policy or trade deals in their entirety and I’m actually more worried if we’re opening up Canada for more US foreign investment in the same deal.
And we are making better friends in the rest of the world. We’ve been strengthening partnership with the EU including a new defense partnership. We’re also finalizing new free trade agreements with the south East Asian bloc (ASEAN). And there’s preliminary work ongoing on expanding free trade with the UK.
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