The comments here ought to be fun. What a shitshow we have made of this planet.
Netanyahu is very friendly with Putin. I don’t know if I would trust that gift personally.
So US gives free weapons to Israel and they sell to Ukraine got it
Anyone who gets into bed with Israel is irredeemably corrupt.
I’ve been an outraged and outspoken supporter of Ukraine since before they were invaded. But, this is fucked. Zelensky can get all-the-way fucked if he’s going to ally with the war criminals like this.
How is Zelenskyy allying with Netanyahu?
We are getting their older Patriot systems (that are very much needed, you’ll change your tune when the building across the street from you gets hit with a Shahed), what do you expect Zelenskyy to do, say “No!”?
I will speculate Zelenskyy’s opinion of Netanyahu is far closer to your own, but unless you are willing to provide x8 Patriot missile systems, you are not in a position to judge.
Are you suggesting that Israel is getting nothing in return for this? At a bare minimum, Israel is purchasing support for their bloodthirsty expansionist project. Sorry, but I do expect Ukraine to say no. I don’t care what Zelensky’s (or any other leader’s) personal opinion is about anything. The only thing that matters is their actions. Providing even passive support for evil, like that personified by Israel, makes it more likely that nations will behave the way that Russia has against Ukraine. Find another way.
What is Israel getting in return from Ukraine for the Patriot system? Cite your sources.
What do you mean by “support for their bloodthirsty expansionist project”? Be specific.
What do you mean by providing passive support? What passive support is being providing? Zelenskyy shaking hands with Netenyahu? Him not shaking hands with Netenyahu will force Israel stop to killing civilians in Gaza?
I’ve been up for 3 hour since ~ 6 am because of today’s attack by the russians (after waking up twice due to Shaheds and then a Kinzhal ballistic missile warning). You believe we should not be able counter russian bombings? Just say “No!” to additional air defense systems? Do you even think about what you are writing?
How is refusal to accept the Patriot systems going to help the Palestinians?
Find another way? What does that mean? Be clear and specific!
Your have a wrapped and almost comically impractical view of the world. I can guarantee you, this type of attitude is not going to help stop the current horrors happening in Gaza and the broader genocidal imperialism of Israel.
No, they don’t think about what they’re posting because they live in the safety of a place not under constant attack and genocide OR because they are themselves a Russian troll trying to stoke fights. The third option is they are an unempathetic fuckwit with such privilege of safety that they cannot comprehend that shades of grey exist and survival can mean doing things you may not necessarily want to do.
They are lord farquaad levels of “some of you may die, but it’s a sacrifice I’m willing to take”. Obviously a troll or someone who should not be taken even a little bit seriously.
Any port in a storm to protect your people, it’s the indecisiveness of the US support thats done this.
Israel’s done it to piss people off it’s politics. The US could have set this up an iron dome system n Ukraine years ago.
I reject his. You’re about a half step away from articulating the rationale that Russia has used to justify its invasion of Ukraine. It’s wrong.
Accepting Patriot missiles to protect your skies is akin to organising a genocidal imperialist invasion?
Allying with a genocidal nation is a form of support for that nation and it’s genocidal project. I don’t understand why this is so difficult to accept. Or, are you taking the stance that the ends always justify the means when it comes to defense. If so, then you’re taking a stance that has been used by Hamas to justify 10/7, Israel to justify genocide, and Russia to justify invading Ukraine.
No, you are wrong.
You bring up all this flowery rhetoric and random accusations, yet when push comes to shove, you always hide from specifics.
What do you mean by allying?
How would Ukraine not accepting the Patriot systems help the Palestinians?
Be clear and specific.
Allying - to have friendly relations, to help each other, to cooperate, etc.
Is Israel being friendly, helping and cooperating with Ukraine? Yes.
Is Ukraine being friendly with Israel? Yes. Is Ukraine cooperating with Israel? Yes. Is Ukraine helping Israel? To the extent that we know what happening, they are at least lending legitimacy to the Israeli regime. That helps them given that they are facing mounting international pressure, ICJ charges, and cratering public support. The agreement also implies that Ukraine will owe something to Israel at some point. That amounts to a promise to help them, somehow. It’s also very reasonable to speculate that Israel has some repayment arranged behind the scenes, although we can only speculate at this point.
Am I holding Ukraine to a high moral standard? Yes. I appreciate the desperate and immediate danger to Ukraine, but this is the same standard that Ukraine and specifically Zelensky have been demanding from the international community since this started. He has rightly appealed to people’s morality and basic human sense of justice as the reason for supplying Ukraine’s defense. Working directly with a regime as comically evil, as outrageously violent, and destructive as Israel undermines all of that.
If you’re in the United States, there’s a non-0 chance you didn’t vote for Kamala because of whatever bullshit Stance you have
I literally cannot understand whatever you are trying to say here.
Even in September 2025 your still saying shit like this? Kamala, Biden, Obama are the same establishment as trump, Bush and Reagan. You have to genuinely stupid if you think Kamala would have ended the genocide and saved Ukraine
Did you get enough gruel, are they going to send you back to the Gulag, if you don’t post enough
Israel is a logical ally to Ukraine because both are being attacked by an evil entity using fake justification. The more nations are acting both against Russia and radical Islam, the better. To have a nation as advanced as Israel on the right side on this is a very good thing.
This is the most illogical and ahistorical shit I’ve read all day. The only way you can frame the genocide of the Palestinians as defense against an evil entity is if you want to arbitrarily start history at a point decades after Israel began killing and displacing millions of people. That’s the same sort of intellectual dishonesty that Russia has used to fabricate historical rationalizations for their invasion.
Yeah, them being pissed at Russia and then backing the Middle Eastern equivalent of Russia is some serious cognitive dissonance shit
That country is providing them with air defense missiles, so… (yes, it’s a shit situation)
millions of people
Where did you source this data? Based on mainstream sources (UN, OCHA, B’Tselem) the number of Arabs displaced from modern day Israel/former territories of Mandatory Palestine from '47 until 2025 are between 995 - 1’105’000 and the number of casualties 67 - 105’000.
As a comparison, the number of Jews displaced from Arab countries during the same period number somewhere between 800-900’000.
That is a facinating take the active genocide taking place in Gaza, carried out by Israel.
Israel isn’t sending it because they’re nice. They’re sending it because it’s a 30 year old system and they want new equipment. And it also makes them look slightly better. Though it would be difficult to look any worse for them.
Are you talking about nazi “state” of israel? They’re one of the r asons for radical islam. Them and fucking USA. And brittish colonial past.
