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      Or you can simply use Linux Mint or Zorin OS if you really can’t stand with a new UI

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    I laughed at Microsoft a lot when they basically made Windows 10 beg people to try edge.

    You tried to change your default and it was like, this isn’t recommended! And you’re like, idgaf change the default, and Windows is like, are you sure? Yes! But edge can save battery power. Are you really sure?

    Fuck off edge. Change the default.

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        I work IT support. I’ve seen the dialog about 1000 times.

        It’s crazy how many people prefer a browser that’s not edge.

        They seem to have removed it in Windows 11, and even might have disabled it in later versions of 10. Idk, everything I’m dealing with now in terms of new setups are Windows 11.

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    So, as with many other people. this stuff is certainly pushing me into Linux.

    That said, is there no chance of the EU restarting their probes towards them with all the dark patterns they’ve been using to push people into Edge?

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      My day job is to fight ONE aspect of shady MS stuff. I don’t have time or money at home to fight ALL of MS’s shady shit at home.

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    Microsoft needs to hire a psychologist or something. Their senseless nagging on forcing shit down our throats doesn’t psychologically work the way they think it does.

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      Except it does work. Its easy to forget that most users dont really know or care that much about their browser or care what their laptop is doing.

      They just click things until something with search bar comes up.

      The tech savy people are not their biggest customer group so they can risk annoying some people as long as they know they are getting more people in to their enviroment than they are loosing their users.

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    Install MSEdgeRedirect to solve this problem.

    I also recommend O&O Shut Up 10 and StartAllBack to disable ads/AI/bloat and restore removed Start menu functionality (like vertical taskbars). Also, always build the ISO in Rufus so you have the option to disable the Microsoft account requirement.

    Alternatively you could* switch to Linux.

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      They say that Stockholm syndrome is fake because of bad data. Windows is the proof that it’s true.

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        There is a possible version of windows that is good and that people want. It’s a just a shame that Microsoft isn’t interested it making it.

        As someone who grew up on windows, I’m willing to stay with it for as long as I can make it like that version. I don’t want Mac, and Linux doesn’t support enough (still, but maybe one day)

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    I mean, if the alternative is vanilla Chrome, it hardly matters at this point. They’re both so loaded with tracking your computer will dent the floor, and they have basically the same capabilities.


    Obviously FF is better, but what I’m saying is, statistically, for the vast majority, this is only pulling folks off of Chrome.

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    Can I run Windows 7 in a VM if I am forced to use 10 or 11 somehow?

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        I’ve heard that the last time I said I till use 7, six months ago. Still waiting for that malware. You understand the only way to get this malware is to actively download it and install it, yes?

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          Thats not remotely true, there’s many ways to inject things through ads or hacked websites onto your computer without you intentionally installing or downloading anything. Much much more rare and on updated systems generally will be better protected from those things, however using an outdated OS intentionally is asking for trouble.

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            Using an adblocker solves that. Not sure how that is specific to Win 7. Hacked websites? Name an example, source it. Difficulty: not from a movie with a skull and crossbones laughing on my screen. None of these hacker fantasies happen in real life. You do have a big hosts file and manage your router, yes? Give me a link to a “hacked website” (F! U! D! Oh my!) right now that I can click on and will install malware on my Windows 7 PC.

            Simply untrue. Hollywood fantasies.

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      Maybe try ReviOS? It’s a “playbook” file you run on a clean Windows 11 install that strips out all of the telemetry and junk, and mostly “just works”. The only big potential pain point, imho, is not getting automatic driver updates from Windows Update.

      I just installed CachyOS with virt-manager running ReviOS in a virtual machine. For my needs, it’s amazing. Arch Linux allows for easy updates to the latest versions of software and CachyOS further improves it with optimized, pre-compiled packages, which is particularly relevant for a smooth gaming experience. (Outdated packages aren’t a good mix with new games, and the optimized packages improve performance.)

      The only “big” challenge I’ve had with Windows is getting videoconferencing working smoothly (my webcam is flickery), but that’s not a big deal. Zoom in Linux works great, and Teams/Zoom both work well in browser (in Linux). So, most of my work stuff is in the VM, but I have Zoom and a separate browser (for Teams meetings) installed in Linux.

      This setup requires a bit of technical skill; you need to be able to find and follow guides. (Ex. I needed to troubleshoot why I couldn’t change the VM resolution, and the fix was to download a set of VM tools in Windows.) If you have light technical skills to search for and read guides, it shouldn’t be too challenging.

      (I use Arch, by the way.)

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        Please describe the nature of this risk, and explain why I don’t have any of them?

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          No OS is safe, because within millions of lines of code, it is bound to have some vulnerabilities that can be exploited.

          But what is absolutely unsafe, is an unsupported OS, where the vulnerabilities that are found are not solved/patched

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            I agree, all I ask is you show me one in Windows 7. Send me a URL that when I click it my bank account is emptied immediately.

            All these threats people see are always something you actively install or are involved in, or some sort of social engineering scam. Even Windows 17 can’t help you with that.

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    That app was your other browser. And the problem was that it made itself your default browser. But no worries. We fixed that right up for you.