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SMH @ activists using techno-fascist platforms for communications during an operation subject to state-actor level interference. I thought we recognised and acknowledged this problem 15-20 years ago already.
https://xcancel.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/1965431513320927706
I use WhatsApp cautiously with friends who still refuse to jump over to Signal (let alone Matrix or Session). But it’s def mind blowing to read an activist group was relying on it for organizing. Reminds me of FB being used for organizing G20 and BLM demos -_-
Considering their entire marketing campaign is “nobody, not even WhatsApp can see your messages,” I can see how folks would fall for that.
But they can see the metadata!
I think a lot of non-techie people only know signal from the Trump admin using it illegally earlier in the year. In a lot of people’s minds because of that they think Signal = insecure because they don’t get the nuances of why using it in that specific context – on personal phones, using a third party app, with a random journalist in the mix – was bad, but that for most people it’s still one of the best options. WhatsApp on the other hand has a lot of marketing around it and if you didn’t know that Meta is Facebook I think some people wouldn’t even realise who the owners are.
I had a friend who heard signal was backdoored and that a regular old cell call was more secure. Had to correct that
wasn’t it telegram that got hacked?
also i vaguely remember the signal ceo getting sued or something because they couldn’t/wouldn’t let some government body read someone’s messages, because it’s encrypted
A sad reality of political activism is the inability of many groups to follow proper opsec.
The number of people who are like "are you on Whatsapp? " fir secure conversations…
WhatsApp Supports starving children to death
Meta*
This is why you don’t use whatsapp
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Yeah, that’s curious. I’d think they’d be prepared with Signal at the very least and some backup self-hosted channel, as well as cameras and backup cell hotspots.
they were prepared for the drone hit the other day; so hopefully for this as well.
I’d imagine they could have a few spread out boats further and further behind, each with its own cell hotspot, beaming WiFi all around, so that they have to be jammed simultaneously to stop the livestreams from capturing the attacks.
it sounds like it would be easier to pick them off one-by-one if they were far apart.
Meta is complicit in the genocide
With all respect to a privacy advocates(I’m one), but blaming them on using WhatsApp is besides the point, these people are not trying to hide their activities, or locations, and many of them are not tech-saavy, the shame is on the cess pool that is Meta, and all the other goons…this is so fucked up on so many levels.
blaming them on using WhatsApp is besides the point
WhatsApp admins are explicitly interfering with a public protest in order to satisfy a genocidal foreign government.
This is at least as big a deal as TikTok censorship of anti-China posters. It’s just on behalf of a US ally, so we’re defending it rather than threatening to interfere in their business practices in turn.
the shame is on the cess pool that is Meta
Who appoints WhatsApp administration heads if not Meta? It’s the same picture.
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100% CIA and mossad were watching those channels realtime.
Did they select Whatsapp as a main communication channel and direct their supporters to it?
Or did they just start a group chat to reach out to supporters who were already on the app?
At least they werent organising on discord, maybe its intentional to send a message to people about meta
So happy not to be using Whatsapp…
All the more reason to use Signal.
another reason why not to use whatsapp? for all that is good, don’t use meta or any corporate technofascist company. there are better options.