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  • DrCake@lemmy.world
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    19 days ago

    America won’t stop until absolutly everything is a partisan issue

    • Cptn_Slow@lemmy.world
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      19 days ago

      No, the news conglomerates won’t stop.

      No one I know actually thinks like this, but it’s easy to run made up problems 24 hrs a day, than point out actual corruption like every career politician insider trading.

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        18 days ago

        People do think like this. News and media have issues but what you picture here is just over the top. Also not every x does y.

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          18 days ago

          Then let the stupid people pay the price.

          Majority of x does y. I know, I know, not your side I’m sure!

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            18 days ago

            Unfortunately, that’s not how vaccines work. They only work if the stupid people and the non-stupid people all get vaccinated to create herd immunity.

            Kinda the same deal as COVID. It will affect the people getting vaccinations, too. And some regular people cannot have vaccinations, for good reasons. So, this affects people outside of the group of stupids.

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        18 days ago

        That is so like your type to point out their making partisan issues partisan issues. We certainly don’t think like that.

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    18 days ago

    This generation has never seen the ravegaes that these preventable diseases can reek.

    These vaccines are the pinnacle of health care research and most were given away for free by those who discovered them… They gave away millions in potential licensing fees for the greater good of humanity… Now that gift is being spit up on by people who have no idea what they are talking about.

    What a disgrace.

    • clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world
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      18 days ago

      that’s one of the side effects of the poor education in the USA… test oriented education focuses on scoring high on tests and general knowledge items such as the history of public health and vaccines are neglected, or if they are discussed, they are discussed in kindergarten terms

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        18 days ago

        I’m pretty sure the people that did well in school are not the ones who don’t support vaccines though

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        18 days ago

        I mean if you know about the Tuskegee experiments you might understand why a certain group of people are skeptical about ANY kind of government “vaccine”.

        The TL:DR is that the US CDC injected people with syphilis but told them it was a vaccine, just so they could see what the long term effects of syphilis were when you didn’t get treatment. 100 people died as guinea pigs.

    • TheMinister@sh.itjust.works
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      18 days ago

      The fact that you changed “spit on” to “spit up on” was perfect. These are emotional toddlers flailing their arms and kicking their feet and accidentally spitting up on all of us and everything sane. Kudos

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      18 days ago

      I used to agree with that. But then Covid happened and I listened to people on the radio call in saying “we gotta let a few old people go to save the exonomy.” As though human life was an acceptable cost.

      I genuinely thought people at least were ignorant to the death tole to then but I was mistaken. It got so bad the host cut off calls.

      The vaccine then came out and I watched millions shun it, despite being shown to be safe and effective. Sure, some folks thought they were dangerous (disinformation and all) but that radio show told me, some people want the world to burn.

      There are people who saw devastation and don’t get vaccinated because it’s an acceptable loss.

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    19 days ago

    I remember that teaching about evolution was controversial back in 1991. But that was after getting my vaccines. But if all science is bad… I’m bringing back the evolution debate!

    Please support quality education. We are constantly surrounded by propaganda. If you don’t see it, it’s probably already affecting your decisions. This whole “vaccines cause autism” rumor was started by a Playboy model with a potty mouth. Not a credible doctor.

    And you know what’s worse than the fear of giving your kid autism? A dead kid!

    I’m so, so sick of stupid people ruining the world because they have a constant need to feel morally superior to other people by being terrible human beings.

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          19 days ago

          And she got the idea from Andrew Wakefield’s paper before he was ejected from the British medical field.

          Vaccine denial is about 2 weeks younger than effective vaccinations.

          Jenny McCarthy is a footnote.

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            19 days ago

            She was a celebrity so she had the status and power to stand up on a soap box and start yelling. I think you’re understating her influence on the American Public. She was on a popular day time talk show ‘The View’ for a while that lots of parents watched while home with their kids during the day.

            Also, I honestly don’t know why we’re arguing about this. Both of these people suck and are responsible for the vaccine denial around us. I’m leaving it at that

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              19 days ago

              Well, she isn’t cited anymore but they still cite the paper and call Wakefield a dr.

              Edit: I geuss fuck me if I want accuracy.

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                19 days ago

                Lol alright dude.

                Person A: why are we arguing? This is stupid. I’m done arguing.

                Person B: continues arguing

                I’m gonna go listen to the Monty Python skit now.

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      18 days ago

      But if all science is bad… I’m bringing back the evolution debate!

      Oh please don’t. We still have stickers on our textbooks.

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      19 days ago

      That’s actually hilarious, tell me you’ve never been to the United States without actually telling me.

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        18 days ago

        I live in the US which is why I know for sure it’s a failing empire. We already lost most of our respect on the world stage. Dollar losing value. Allies realize we are too unstable. The only thing we still have is a military that will fuck anyone who we want to. But give it time, we’re a few decades from instead of being below most of the other first world nations in any given metric, being far below all of them. This vaccination shit alone will kill millions. We are fucked. What are you smoking to not see it?

  • Zer0_F0x@lemmy.world
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    19 days ago

    We ain’t got no vaccine for stupidity but even if there was one half the US would be too stupid to take it

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        19 days ago

        The problem is that the vaccine regimen is very expensive, and the government is run by people who use every single failure of the regimen to push for a less-strict regimen, which causes more failures. They do this because they actively profit from a populace infected with stupidity.

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          18 days ago

          Yes, analogous to drug companies emphasizing treatment over cure.

          Fortunately, we also educate each other daily through casual and professional encounters, so we can work towards a culture that appreciates education.

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      19 days ago

      Wouldn’t THAT vaccine be a paradox though? The half that would take it don’t need it, and the half that need it are…ya know…listening to Alex Jones conspiracy theories.

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    18 days ago

    Funny how with technology people are getting dumber and tricked even easier

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      18 days ago

      It’s not “with technology”, it’s despite technology.

      It’s a decades long attack on education, public acceptance of low skill low wage unqualified teachers, and a complete lack of critical thinking in most of the population.

      They don’t understand how vaccines work, they don’t understand statistics, they don’t understand chemistry, they don’t know how to research despite having the total sum of human knowledge at their fingertips. You tell them vaccines are made from fetuses and harms your children and they stop processing beyond that.

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        18 days ago

        It’s also that the dumbest among us have massive reach and we haven’t culturally adapted to it. Similar shit happened with radio.

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    19 days ago

    I assume, if they’re a MAGAt, that they are antivax. That’s thirty percent of the fucking country.

    And stupid.

    And amoral.

    And generally just horrid people who should be shunned and made fun of.

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    18 days ago

    We’re doomed. If 51% of the country has decided, based on a neverending stream of lies, that we should all die rather than receive basic health care, then there’s really nothing much left to argue about. America has has decided it would rather commit suicide than acknowledge that there are people who DO know what they’re talking about and actually listen to them.

    That’s it. We’re done. We’re all gonna die of some easily preventable plague because we didn’t fucking ostracize these idiots twenty years ago. The country is now run by the people who actually believe the comical lies the GOP used to tell to keep the idiots compliant. I don’t think you can come back from that.

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      18 days ago

      Although if we want a more pessimistic view

      If we assume that “eligible voters” is a roughly representative sample of the country in general, well over 51 percent of the country either voted for this (directly by voting for trump, or indirectly by voting 3rd party) or didn’t care enough to even show up and vote.

      Because that’s what happened. Something like 3/4 of eligible voters decided that this was an acceptable outcome.

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      18 days ago

      It’s just history man. Most of us in the first world are, for the first time, on the wrong end of it. The Expanse called it the churn.

      Some part of me is laughing, “Have y’all not studied history?!” It’s our time to witness the fall of the empire. But hey! The 80s and 90s were fucking sweet in America!

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    18 days ago

    Every fucking day some Americans are allowing their enemies to win by defeating themselves with lies.

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    18 days ago

    In semi-related news, I’ve become more pro-mask than I ever thought I would become. Because they fucking work and it’s great to not be sick twenty times a year. Now that everyone’s against them they’re less than a dollar a mask.

    😷

    • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
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      18 days ago

      I have a coworker who wears a mask almost every day. (We work with small children, AKA sentient petri dishes. Wearing a mask by default isn’t a bad idea.)

      I’m not that hardcore, but I’ve found that they help even in non-illness situations. Like when the air is cold and dry, wearing a mask means the air I breathe is warmer. Not only is it more comfortable, but it prevents the post-nasal drip that such conditions usually trigger. Without post-nasal drip, my throat is less likely to become irritated. An irritated throat can lead to laryngitis.

      Ergo, wearing a mask on cold, dry days prevents an entire chain of shitty events from taking place. The people stubbornly digging their heels in against masks have no idea what incidental benefits they’re missing.