: Want to pass on that old PC? Perhaps wait until out-of-band patch arrives
  • Sunkblake@lemmy.worldEnglish
    891·
    2 months ago

    I got a survey question from windows feedbackhub on my work computer yesterday, asking if i would recommend windows. And i thought fine ill answer this seriously with real reasons why.

    I wrote a long explanation from my own experiences helping people and using it, half way through i shit you not, the feedbackhub froze and crashed.

    • Gerblat@lemmy.worldEnglish
      252·
      2 months ago

      It probably detected a certain number of flagged words or phrases and knew it was gonna be really negative feedback and “crashed”

      • Sunkblake@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        2 months ago

        It wasn’t even that negative.

        Would you recommend windows to family and friends?

        No, 90% of those i help (ages 10-70) with computers and tech dont need a computer, they can use their phone for everything. A phone can pay bills, contact friends and family even print documents or pictures just fine and they have everything they need and want.

        The only reason someone even wants a PC today is to play games or they need it for work and in those cases i usually don’t need to recommend them an os because they probably don’t have any other options, because they are comfortable windows or mac.

    • Random_Character_A@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      2 months ago

      I don’t usually leave feedback. I have done it maybe six times when I’ve been really pissed. In two of those times I’ve gotten “server error” or similar after writing a long rant and pressing “send”

      Seems to be a really important and respected part of any service.

  • BurntWits@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    291·
    2 months ago

    I’m so glad I switched to Linux when I did (a couple months ago). I was dual booting for a bit but two weeks ago I removed my windows partition. Feels good to be free.

    • voodooattack@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      2 months ago

      What distro, and how do you like it compared to windows so far? (And I’m assuming you’re not using Arch since you didn’t say anything)

      • BurntWits@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        3·
        2 months ago

        I distro hopped a bit but landed on CachyOS, which is arch-based (btw) but a lot more straightforward to install and has a faster kernel supposedly. It’s been fantastic, I much prefer it to windows. Still getting used to the occasional hiccup but it’s worth it. I was never too attached to windows anyway. I’m currently running KDE Plasma but I want to try out Hyprland or something similar. It seems really cool. I have to look into how to download it though.

        • voodooattack@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          2 months ago

          Nice! CachyOS and Nix are on my bucket list but I’m content with fedora atm. Used to run the CachyOS kernel on fedora before though. I think it’s an interesting choice to enable LTO for the entire kernel, and the performance was top notch! Too bad it broke my kernel headers package which broke the nvidia drivers so I had to cut my losses and purge everything back then.

          • BurntWits@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            2·
            2 months ago

            Everyone I’ve read that’s used Fedora has liked it. I’d consider it on a secondary machine or something maybe.

            Cachy has been awesome, I’d recommend it if you decide to change distros in the future. I’m enjoying Arch as a base more than Ubuntu for sure. I haven’t tried anything based on Fedora though other than Bazzite which is immutable, so I’m not sure if that really counts.

            Nix seems cool but its big selling point that I’ve read is easy reproduction which I don’t think I’d utilize much. I might be missing something, but Arch seems more for me personally.

            • i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
              3·
              2 months ago

              Nix isn’t just for reproduction. It has immutability so if you break your system configuration you can revert to a previous profile, and the way installations are managed allows you to install software that uses incompatible versions of the same dependencies at the same time.

      • Tortellinius@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        2 months ago

        Classic recommendations are Linux Mint and Ubuntu, I think Zorin as well, but there are many others. For starters which one you use won’t matter too much, because more likely than not you’re gonna switch again.

        I started with Ubuntu because it’s easy to use and I was new. One can argue over the pros and cons. I’m looking at Manjaro at the minute, an easy to install and beginner friendly Arch distro. Really, you can just try most of them out online though. Check out DistroSea and you can actually emulate the OSs with several desktop environments right in your browser.

  • elucubra@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    21·
    2 months ago

    “Thanks to Microsoft’s legendary approach to quality control, installing Windows patches these days is getting to be less like Russian Roulette and more like accidentally stepping on a rake left in the grass.”

    Oooof!

  • neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    11·
    2 months ago

    How does Microsoft regularly. Was up this badly?

    Do all companies (Apple/linux) do it to but we don’t hear about it because of the smaller user base or is Microsoft literally this incompetent?

    If they are, why can they fix the root issue?

    The is a genuine question that I don’t have the answer to.

    • azertyfun@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      3·
      2 months ago

      This kind of shit happens with a similar frequency… on Arch Linux. It’s rolling release, shit happens sometimes. archlinux.org’s homepage actually lists past major packaging issues.

      Debian however is rock-fucking-solid. But so is Windows Server, I hear. The problem is that Microsoft is treating Windows Home/Pro like a rolling release distro, and the users are guinea pigs. I guess Microsoft is right though, their users will eat it up 'till shit is spilling out from both ends, so why bother?

    • Auth@lemmy.worldEnglish
      412·
      2 months ago

      However often you think windows machines break on updates Apple ones break 100x more.

        • Auth@lemmy.worldEnglish
          42·
          2 months ago

          Yeah I had an apple machine running filevault get locked out of its file system during an update and end up with no OS. Tried to revert back to before the update but the encryption keys werent working to unlock it. I had to install a new OS which isnt to bad on mac. Worst part was it wasnt even a major upgrade just a security patch.

          • neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            4·
            2 months ago

            War this a widespread issue? I know every computer can have one of issues, but Microsoft seems to have regular widespread issues and I was wandering about example where Apple also had widespread issues.

            • Auth@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              1 month ago

              yes all computers have issues. Check the apple forums if you dont believe me

      • THX-1138@lemmy.mlEnglish
        62·
        2 months ago

        This is complete bullshit Windows machines break WAY more often whenever MS releases their spotty updates. Especially when they decided to break up their quality control dept years ago. Every other week or so you get this shite with Windows/MS.

      • floofloof@lemmy.caOPEnglish
        2·
        2 months ago

        My Apple-using friends seem split on this when I ask them whether Macs are stable these days. I’ve heard from several people that their reputation for stability is a hangover from the past, and updates in recent years have been somewhat unreliable. But it would be hard to get good comparative data given that the companies won’t be eager to share the numbers.

        • Auth@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          1 month ago

          We have the data, its why almost all companies run fleets of windows devices. When buying leased devices the price difference is negligible. The only difference is no one wants to run support for an all mac fleet.

  • Lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    8·
    2 months ago

    Glad I ditched Windows entirely on my personal devices and went to Linux. No ragrets. Games still work wonderfully.

    Any absolutely required usage of Windows on a personal device is provided by a VM running a stripped-down version of W10 LTSC, activated by massgrave scripts.