Elaborate and explain

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      That’s because—for many reasons—there are way too many non-billionaires on team billionaire.

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        I worked with a guy that proudly proclaimed that he voted for the right because they looked after the rich.

        He was not rich, but he purchased lottery tickets weekly and stated he’d rather get screwed while poor than pay more tax if he, some day, became rich.

        And that was the day I realised that we’re fucked.

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            I don’t, I feel like moron / stupid just doesn’t cut it for idiots like this. I honestly don’t know of an adjective the fully encapsulates the stupidty, childishness, and naivite of a regular person aligning with the super rich.

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              Corporate brainwashed, delusional, desperate, uneducated, lazy, close-minded, coping human?

              The media is pushing “answer a few questions, or spin a wheel, and get rich”, and “sing in your car, then get famous on Idol” and getting huge ratings. Same way we got this fucking President. Corporate brainwashing.

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    It’s not the billionaires but the antisocial, amoral whores who will sell their souls for money and do their bidding that are the problem (police, army, etc.), and those who would quietly acquiesce. And of those there are way too many in some societies for change to be easy/possible.

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    All evidence points to a regime change (in the physics sense, not the political) being the necessary condition for things to go from our current state to something new.

    We currently have people paying poorer people a very small amount of their own net worth to protect the wealthy person’s status and position. This is similar to how kings and queens paid the army and policing forces to control the peasants.

    Before the French Revolution I am sure it seemed impossible that the peasants would revolt, but the years leading up to the revolution things were getting worse and worse for the average peasant. There is a tipping point where the average person does not think the current system is delivering on the promise that of you do what you are told you can have a good life. I think we are approaching that point now.

    If the rich try to hire someone and underpay them for security, stiff contractors for services, flaunt laws and generally behave obnoxiously at some point people will have had enough. Whether that ends with guillotine action or people just divesting from those systems depends on how much freedom people think they have.

    If people thought they could go and homestead, live off the land, and get by without the massive companies these billionaires own then they would have that outlet and choose that peaceful option. The fact that we have taxation creates a pressure to pay in currency which demands earning in that currency. Same with paying rent, you have to earn money simply to live. No amount of growing all of your food gets rid of your financial obligations, so there is no out from the system. If that system is unreasonable it begins to feel less like participation and more like coercive control. Wage slavery is not the same as slavery, but both involve coercion and require the legal system to support them. Both lead to revolutions. Both lead to violence.

    I guess the billionaires have to decide if they really want to paint that big a target on their backs by flaunting their wealth. At this point I think they feel untouchable.

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      Mostly all agreed, but the populace isn’t starving, not even close. I’m not arguing that we’re not suffering, only that we’re nowhere near suffering enough for a revolt. But damned do I like what you’ve written!

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        Just a quick point, you aren’t starving. Plenty of people are not getting their basic needs met. There are tonnes of people who are unhoused, lots of people, especially kids, experiencing food insecurity, and a huge number of women specifically are living in abusive situations because they do not have the means to live outside those situations. Starving is failing to meet one need, but there are plenty of other needs that lead to death if not met. People die from cold and heat purely because of cost. Those deaths are no less tragic because it was cold rather than a lack of calories.

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      The biggest ruse in American history is the modern billionaire convincing the working class Americans that the immigrants, homeless, people of color, and LGBT+ people are the real enemy and the reason you’re unhappy. Capitalism is the only functioning system of government, don’t pay attention to the fact that almost every other developed country has universal healthcare.

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    The billionaires spend a small fraction to some idiots to betray their fellow non-billionaires. It’s probably about a million people versus the masses.

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    Why you think they’re tossing so much money to develope ai and humanoid robots?

    When shit will hit the fan they want their own private army to watch their ass, but at the same time they don’t want highly trained human mercenary inside their golden castel getting strange ideas.

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      Omg you are right on this. They see most of as disposable once they’re able to consistently get away with it.

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        Which is now. They just need something safe to keep “that” up in the eventuality that civilization/economy collapse.

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    Unfortunately that is not how the figures really are. Way too many of those 8 billions will willingly simp and fight the rest of us in the name of those billionaires.

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    I mean… Look around? Maybe billionaire is a new thing, but it is just modern royalty. We still have kings, they just got better PR.

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    If organized, the billionaires lose. It’s really that simple and that difficult.

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    The billionaires are winning now and the reasons are obvious.

    The 8 billion are unable to think clearly, identify problems and organize. The billionaires are focused on their goals and super influential. They’re able to buy loyality of the key less fortunate people and enforce loyality of others. They can also buy media to influence thinking of the masses.

    If it was just about numbers, the billionaires would lose. But it’s not.

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    Assuming the 8b were all of the same mind, they would win. But we all know there are quite a few that the billionaires could buy to fight for them

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    The billionaires, by convincing people the rich have a monopoly on violence.

    But if anything sparks collective violence, the rich are overthrown within a month.