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I consent to Plex to: (i) sell certain personal information (hashed emails, advertising identifiers) to third-parties for advertising and marketing purposes; and (ii) store and/or access certain personal information (advertising identifiers, IP address, content being watched) on my device(s) and share that information with Plex’s advertising partners. This data is used to deliver personalised ads and content, ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. Your consent applies to all devices on which you have Plex installed. You can withdraw your consent at any time in Account Settings or using this page.
Soure: https://www.plex.tv/vendors/ (Might have to clear cache)
Can also read about the changes here: https://www.plex.tv/about/privacy-legal/
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"Updated “Who does Plex share or sell Personal Data with?” to include the Plex activity that you share based on your account visibility and activity settings as well as sharing/sale of certain Personal Data to third parties.
Nothing changes for Plex Accounts created before March 20, 2025 unless you change your preferences here. If you are a new user and created an account after March 20, 2025, you can update your preferences here. The types of data that we may share has not changed We do not and will not collect information about content or titles in your personal media library or what you’ve played. Personal media users: we do NOT, and will not, share or sell any information about the content and titles on or your use of a personal media server. Consent is required by all Plex Accounts created before March 20, 2025 for the sale of their data."Seems like it’s just for their other services, which I already assumed they were tracking and selling view counts.
The downfall of Plex needs to be compiled into an 80 minute YouTube video with sponsors spaced in for NordVPN and Viagra
Relevant XKCD: https://www.xkcd.com/743/
Every day of my life trying to explain to friends they need to quit using spoon fed software. Sigh.
And spoonfed news, food…
I think we can make an exception for soup and ice-cream, no?
NO SOUP FOR YOU! NEXT!
Haha totally, I should have said processed food, it’s the most marketed.
We could also say ultra processed news now that I think about it: statistical data -> random blog article misinterprets the charts -> tweet w people not reading the sources -> screenshot goes around on facebook -> LLM regurgitates it -> TV news anchor says it with a straight face
spoon fed software
That’s a new one. I like it.
America always does what’s right, after they’ve tried everything else. - Someone
I’m a big fan of Jellyfin. I would say it is easily family approved. That is for my family in my household who is using it on our home Wi-Fi.
But I am not about to expose it publicly. I have WireGuard set up on my immediate family’s devices and that is mostly ok (until you get on a public Wi-Fi that fails because you haven’t gone through their portal and can’t because the vpn is on, or you are on an airplane’s Wi-Fi with no internet trying to watch their movies and it doesn’t work until you turn off the vpn). Explaining this to my wife has been a nonstop battle.
I’d like it open it up to my siblings families, especially because I have the ersatztv plug-in to create approved child stations, but so many smart tvs and devices don’t support a vpn. How have others handled that situation?
Wireguard doesn’t necessarily need to have those limitations, but it will depend in part how your VPN profile is set up.
If you configured your wireguard profile to always route all traffic over the VPN then yeah, you won’t be able to access local networks. And maybe that’s what you want, in which case fine :)
But you can also set the profile to only route traffic that is destined for an address on the target network (I.e your home network) and the rest will route as normal.
This second type of routing only works properly however when there are no address conflicts between the network you are on (i.e. someone else’s WiFi) and your home network.
For this reason if you want to do this it’s best to avoid on your own home network the common ranges almost everyone uses as default, i.e. 192.168.0.* and 10.0.0.*
I reconfigured my home network to 192.168.22.* for that reason. Now I never hit conflicts and VPN can stay on all the time but only traversed when needed :)
I typically use split routing BUT also have dns set to my pihole, both so dns works for my internal services and for tracker blocking. That causes a big issue. Also I wish WireGuard would just handle failures better. Even when it can’t connect, it seems to break networking (at least on iOS)
“enshittification wont happen to my software of choice”
hahahaha… those ppl with discord, iphones, windows,plex…they wont learn.
Seeing the replies in this thread it kinda makes me wonder what Plex actually has to do for these zealots to quit using their platform.
Like do they literally have to steal naked pictures of you and pass them around the office? Like wtf.
My guess when the MPA buys plex data and they have what movies everyone has on their servers.
I’m slowly building up Jellyfin to replace it.
FWIW apparently this is talking about their free content, not about user content.
And that makes a difference to you?
It does, yeah.
If they are providing the content, they can see that they are providing the content and that much is obvious.
If you are providing the content, you wouldn’t expect that they can identify what you are watching.
That’s the difference to me, yeah.
Mmmmm gross.
I’ll leave you with this, though. Shit like this is all goalposts. For now it’s just “their” content and not yours. But in 12 months it’s gonna be all content. And what excuse will you make for them, then?
I’ll switch to jellyfin like a normal adult who actually reads the updates and not a reactionary who just reads thread titles.
Need a jellyfin PS5 app
And a Samsung TV app. There’s an entire branch of Samsung TVs that require side loading to get a Jellyfin app installed.
This is specifically related to watching their free content. You can opt out of the sale & sharing of said data, which is used to play you targeted ads when watching their free content. I am not a big fan, but this is the typical “free” TV spiel. Was there something that changed recently or is it just being recognized now?
They also serve you their version of the show with ads if you have the same show on your Plex. I have Ghost in the Shell S.A.C on Plex and I’ve never watched their version but it sure as shit showed up in my “continue watching”. The same thing happened when my gf was watching Midsomer Murders.
I have actually never considered watching Plex’s free shows.
If I did see something I liked, I’d probably ‘acquire’ it and put it in my own library.
It’s the recent “We all hate Plex now” because they implemented a price in regards to the way we access content remotely because it was costing them too much to maintain for free. So anything that smells even remotely like they are trying to make money is getting the shocked and dismayed reaction. Usually followed by a dozen or so people talking about how they’ve ditch Plex ages ago for a truly free platform like jellyfin/Kodi/etc.
My friend in England uses my server all the time and neither of us have gotten that email about being charged for shared library yet lol.
Maybe im just the chosen one.
I’ve yet to see a single email about any of the shit on here about Plex. I’m not defending any of these choices, just more confused as to who this applies to, where and when.
Are you using the free version of Plex or the paid for version?
content being watched) on my device(s) and share that information with Plex’s advertising partners
That is a honey pot rights holders will be falling over themselves to pay Plex for access to once they hear about it.
Been telling anyone that would listen that they need to get out of Plex since they implemented that first iteration of trying to require you to sign into your own self hosted server with a Plex.tv account. They were telegraphing what direction they were going in with that kind of user hostile move.
Lots of responses about how it was easy to get around so no big deal (or worse that they liked it for some coping mechanism reason) and that nothing else was as easy and feature rich as Plex so it was worth it.
Well now a few years down the road from that they are now going to use that beach head on everyone’s Plex server they can to collect what is being watched and sell it to the highest bidder.
Yep I see this as the end game of Plex MPA purchases the data and goes after people.
I assumed they already were.
No chance Plex wasn’t making money from those who didn’t pay for Plex Pass.
I know, right? Any ‘free’ service with that much infrastructure to support, is more than likely selling your data. I guess, it’s kind of refreshing that a company comes right out and tells you they’re about to bend you over the barrel.
I have a lifetime Plex pass but still I am considering switching. Currently I have both Jellyfin and Plex on the same libraries but Jellyfin doesn’t have support for chromecast (on iOS and Firefox) nor support for offline . (Not) covering neither my at home nor travelling use cases 😕
For chromecast to work with the app, you need to install the jellyfin app from google play, not fdroid or other store.
I think you can use Infuse on iOS to chromecast. I’m not sure if that’s behind the subscription though.
I miss when you could use something without it turning into spyware. Jellyfin it is then.
Stopped using plex, replaced with jellyfin
Do they have the same features?
For those who aren’t quite ready to delete their accounts get, this link buried on their privacy page can let you opt out: https://www.plex.tv/vendors-us
Not sure why “us” is in the URL, I’m in Canada
Didn’t even need to dig. As soon as I opened Plex in my browser, it gave me a giant full screen “hey we want to sell your data. Do you consent” page. I disagree with data sale in general, but at least they didn’t go out of their way to bury the opt out. In fact, they actually went out of their way to present the notification in a way that was impossible to miss. If you’re capable of reading, you’ll know what the popup is for.
Yeah, I mean this seems like much ado about nothing. Don’t get me wrong…I’d prefer Plex never even attempt this, but they make it dead easy to opt out. There’s literally an “All No” checkbox. It’s been that way for a while. Every time someone posts another “Plex sux and steals your data!” thread, I check it and everything is still set to opt-out. They’ve never auto-opted-in anything, unlike how back when I still had a Facebook account I’d have to constantly re-opt-out of things because FB seemingly changed my settings to opt back in every time the moon entered its waning phase. Roku does that too. Every time I go into the “secret” menu and turn off ads and stuff, then there’s a system update, you have to go turn that stuff back off.
Agreed, but I don’t always trust myself not to have clicked through something like this on autopilot and make the wrong choice.
This post had me wanting to double-check I’d opted out (I had).
*For now
Jellyfin is the way. Costs nothing other than the hardware needed and nobody is selling anything about you.
Our personal streaming library with Jellyfin is bigger than any public service and we can add to it from VHS, DVD, Blueray, though extra equipment was required for the VHS/Blueray.
It’s also available anywhere we go and we can set up separate accounts for different family members. There’s even a phone app.
But not Fire tablets (kids profile) or Samsung TV or many others that Plex currently supports.
JellyFin android phone app’s UI is a little weird at times, but does work pretty well for me.
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What I would adore from any app would be an easy way to upload specific content and metadata via SFTP or to blob storage and accessible with auth (basic, token, or cloud) to more easily share it with friends/family/myself without having to host the whole damn library on the Internet or share my home Internet at inconvenient times.
Client-side encryption would be a great addition to that (eg. password required, that adds a key to the key ring). And of course native support in the JellyFin/other apps for this. It could even be made to work with a JS & WASM player.
Checkout 3rd party jellyfin android apps. Findroid is working pretty well. Theres another one called Streamyfin which is catching up and a third one called Fladder, which is maybe a bit too early in development.
on the tablet it should work fine in the browser. maybe that would also work on the TV, that’s exactly what most TV apps do anyway.
How big is that library supposed to be that it is larger than all public ones? There are some with 10’000s of videos.
We have over 15,000 videos in TV episodes, alone. Not counting movies.
So…yeah.
Wow. But now I had to look it up, the German “ARD Mediathek” has over 200’000 files, a playtime of 100’000 hours.
feels so much more illegal than just streaming for yourself tho
I mean you are literally hosting pirated content for anyone to see, is it denial or is it really less illegal? Yall mention multiple user accounts, if ppl pay you in any way you are now a bootlegger?
best bet for your home theater PC is STILL old computer parts with high capacity storage
