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Tax. Noone wants their money to be taken away. But it’s probably a good idea to have at least some government funded stuff.
Prison seems the obvious one. It’s obviously (to me, that is) not desirable to deprive anyone of their freedom, but for persistently violent people I don’t think there’s a better solution, unfortunately.
nah, the justice system is absolutely fucked. in a world where we remake the law around restorative and rehabilitative justice rather than punitive, we’re probably not even going to be calling it “prison” anymore
Violence against fascists.
I bought a Pixel so could install a degoogle OS on the phone. This largely removed Google from my life.
Shame they’re making that harder going forward by removing pixel specific info from the build tree
Luigi mangione
Evil that’s necessary isn’t evil, just painful.
Anyway, my example: a fever? 😅
Police. As much as I hate their current incarnation, I. Some form or fashion they are required to handle those that do harm to others intentionally.
Except here’s the thing: in every form and fashion, they don’t actually do anything to the ones doing the most harm
Government.
In an ideal world, everyone would get along and coordinate effectively in a voluntary manner. There would be no need for any government to enforce laws or provide services.
Guillotines
Nah we have machetes
Money. It encourages greed, but it allows us to scale exchange of goods and services far more than we otherwise could
Lobotomy, electroshock and castration are historic treatments for various extreme mental disorders that were, probably mistakenly, considered necessary evils lacking other treatments.
These days prozac, benzos and lithium fall into a similar category.
I’m not sure if you’re comparing SSRIs to castration but I’m gonna assume you’re not.
I dont think any prescriber would consider any of those medicines necessary. a much better example would be steroids like prednisone. it weakens your immune system, but it’s absolutely necessary at times.
SSRIs are rarely necessary, but are a useful tool. too much to say on this.
Benzos are a short term solution to enable more longer term treatments. they’re absolute monsters of a drug class, but really effective for sure.
fentanyl would be a better example of a necessary evil. it’s synthesis revolutionized surgery.
finally, lithium is a funny example – we still don’t even really know how it works!! but it’s a mood stabilizer and can be hugely beneficial for managing bipolar disorder. that said, one can attempt to manage bipolar symptoms without medications, but it’s certainly going to be harder and possibly less effective
Conscription.
Not sure why anyone’s downvoting this. If someone you’ve never met thinks that you have to put your life on the line, and therefore may possibly die, to further a cause - let them explain that cause. If they can’t convince you it’s more important than your life, then maybe it isn’t.
See: Vietnam, etc.
Edit: My bad, I was thinking, “What’s a good example of evil?” - Conscription should never be “necessary”. The only thing conscription does is protect the status quo. Keep the upvote - it was an honest mistake on my part.
Vietnam is a good example of a bad example. WWII is a better example of the necessary evil part, especially countries that were invaded.
Go to your room and close door.
Mosquitos.
Fuck them. But without them most ecosystems would fail
But without them most ecosystems would fail
a minor hiccup, at most. Many ecosystems wouldn’t even notice.
Is there any evidence for that?
Necessary for what? The word necessary implies a goal. Evil also implies a religious type objective morality. I don’t think though, that for the goal of living a happy life, any harm is theoretically necessary.
Ok Doug
I just see a blank image
That’s annoying, it totally displayed on my side. I think I fixed it now, but kinda ruined my joke…
Jordan Peterson, is that you? 🙃
Define Jordan Peterson. Define you.
for real, are you serious? you’re gonna call names at the moral relativist dude, saying he’s the dude who believes that hierarchies are morally good because they exist??? how inconsistent can you get
“necessary” could mean something that must exist, could not be otherwise. like, uhh, the sun? idk man
“evil” is just the dregs of Abrahamic thought that plague our culture, though
it’s definitely a dumb question but fun to play along with if you don’t take it too seriously
