• @Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
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      I mean the voters are the accountability. Seems like the right show up with weapons and plan A, B, and C that they have organised for the past year.

      The left show up with knowledge of how to get arrested. And it’s getting frustrating to watch. We need to start asking ourselves why they do things at can’t muster half the strength for

      • @technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Are you talking about libs? They’re right-wing.

        There is almost zero leftism in the core of empire. It’s literally the goal of hegemonic narrative (schools, media, politicians, etc) to obscure and misrepresent leftism.

  • @mavu@discuss.tchncs.de
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    I’m sorry. does anyone really believe that?

    “in the interest of not causing division we will offer an amnesty to all personnel who assumed orders they got were lawful”

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      It’s going to have to be different this time. We let them slide after the Revolution, the Civil War, and WWII, and it has led directly to the mess we are in now.

      If we survive this, it will be imperative that there are harsh punishments for ALL leaders, and all middle management. Street level traitors may not end up in prison, but they should be forced to go to political remediation classes, where they will be properly taught about the Constitution, American History, and Critical Thinking Skills. Recalcitrant “students” can have their sentences commuted to long prison sentences if they’d prefer.

    • Queen HawlSera
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      To be honest if Kamela Harris won, I could have seen her or Biden “Pardoning Trump to let the nation heal”

  • @Simulation6@sopuli.xyz
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    The agents that abused their authority need to be punished, but I would be more interested in punishing the people in power that enabled this mess or ignored what was going on.

        • @Mustakrakish@lemmy.world
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          “Intellectual” is a bit of a stretch, because sure many had degrees, but a lot of the “science” they did was just literal torture with ko scientific method or even recorded results. I have trouble calling that actual science.

          • @Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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            Von Braun was part of operation paperclip, and we definitely got an actual scientific benefit from bringing him to the US.

  • ZeroOne
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    This is one of those things that can never be forgiven. There were so many instances of abuse of power.

    Too many to not notice

  • Lord Wiggle
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    Why not, it helped for many nazis after the second world war. Many got convicted, but also many didn’t.

    • ZeroOne
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      Soviets had the better idea, they weren’t taking any prisoners

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    It literally worked for 99.999% of Nazis. We only hung some of the top brass. And then we took the smartest ones and gave them great lives at NASA.

    • @octopus_ink@slrpnk.netOP
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      Just so we’re clear, this isn’t Truth Social or X. Folks only engage with the bigots and racists here for fun. When it’s done being fun you just get blocked. If that’s an entertaining way for you to conduct yourself online, go right ahead.

      • BeBopALouie
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        I have found it is useless trying to have discourse with them. I just meow at them. It’s fun and confuses them.

      • @Borg7of1@lemm.ee
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        And that was not what I was asking, was it. When Obama deported 3000000 people, where were your camps then. And if people are removed illegally yes that is wrong. But I am to shut up.

        • @tomsh@lemmy.world
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          The truth is forbidden on the far left, just as it is on the far right. You’re wasting your time explaining.

          • @Borg7of1@lemm.ee
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            Yes you are correct, but sometimes I do hope there is someone there. That realize it’s ok to think another way. That is after all, that got the human race were we are today.

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      If you ever want to see if you’re on the right side of history, just look at your words:

      “Illegal people” is a vile concept.

          • @Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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            622 days ago

            Also cite anywhere it states that the rights laid out in the constitution apply specifically to citizens only.

            • @blitzen@lemmy.ca
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              Even if you were to concede that point, which to be clear, I absolutely do not, due process must be extended to everyone in order to know who is a citizen and who is not.

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      A person cannot be “illegal.”

      But they can be ignorant, bigoted, and hateful. Obviously.

    • hope
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      Maybe we should lend less credence to a law making certain people illegal that was passed while the Nazis controlled Germany.

    • @10001110101@lemm.ee
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      And immigrants here legally as well. And because they’re ignoring due process and habeas corpus, I have no doubt, citizens who committed no crime soon (they’ve already kidnapped citizens and looted citizens homes, but haven’t exiled citizens yet, AFAIK).

      Edit: Forgot. Yes, they have already started kidnapping and exiling citizens who are minors.