• Sibshops@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    I don’t know why this keeps getting posted everywhere. Workers have a lift limit the extra cost is for the extra person to handle the bag.

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    OSHA.

    The throwers have a union to stop them from killing themselves, which means we don’t give them 40kg things to break their backs regularly and anything over 22kgs they buddy lift or get a hoist or something.

    Thought it was just airlines being airlines too, but this makes complete sense, don’t be dicks about other people’s health.

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      i was in favor of total weight based pricing, but this changed my mind.

      may the backs of the people kicking around my luggage be in perfect health

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        Same, went from ‘you greedy mother-fuckers’ to ‘I am right with you fam’.

        Amazed they don’t explain it more, it makes them actually seem human for once.

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          because airlines do not actually care about their workers and just comply with the regulations half assedly. they cannot fathom compassion for human resources or assume milking it would backfire.

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            3 months ago

            I mean, airlines are people too, and among the most unionized industries.

            They’re both soulless and actually human at the same time.

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    I’ve always assumed you pay extra because multiple people have to carry the bag around after you check it, and that’s harder/more dangerous at higher weights.

    In warehouses, you gotta go get your lift belt and often a partner if something is over a certain weight, and you aren’t covered by workman’s comp if you just try to do it quickly without those, so it’s a serious hassle.

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        3 months ago

        The extra fuel cost doesn’t even remotely compare to the cost of an injured baggage handler and their lost wages.

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          3 months ago

          Using that logic, the extra charge doesn’t come close to the cost of an injured baggage handler and their lost wages. If that was the reason, they would reject it outright or split it into multiple bags.

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            3 months ago

            Nooo… They just assign multiple people or use equipment to lift heavy bags.

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              Do we really expect they do that for baggage handlers? When it’s 2 pounds over. Do they mark overweight bags with big hazard signs so the handlers know?

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                Yes, they do. If you’ve ever worked a physical job, there are safety procedures and regulations enforced by OSHA and unions. If it’s 2 pounds over, you go get a second person for the lift because if you decide to break procedure and then injure yourself, you’re not covered by the union and/or workman’s comp insurance. In some places it’s an automatic firing if you break safety procedure, and any manager forcing people to break procedure will be in deep shit.

                Story time: I have a good friend who was a baggage handler and got stuck in a situation where their boss forced them to handle overweight baggage without a second person. She blew out her knee, has had multiple surguries, and has had to testify in court multiple times, including for a law suit that ended up giving her a sizable settlement check.

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                  No no no not other jobs. This one job specifically: airplane baggage handler. And I’m not talking massively overweight bags which sounds like your friend, I’m talking the 1 and 2 pound overweight. Are they marked with massive hazard signs so everyone knows it’s 1 pound over.

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    Well, no employee is going to be expected to physically lift me and every other passenger at any point, but they will have to lift all of our checked baggage, so it feels like my weight matters less than my luggage’s weight.

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      I don’t want to “well actually” but I’m disabled and need to be pushed in my chair through the airport and to + down the gate corridor. Every time I arrive at the plane door, someone greets me from the plane and asks “do you need help (boarding the plane)”. Luckily I can hobble with my cane for short distances, so I don’t need to be carried like I’m going to the bedroom in a romcom, but they do have staff that can aid with that…

      Now I’m imagining a plane full of disabled people all being carried. Boarding time, 11a, departure, 3p. 😋

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        That’s fair. Now I wonder how liability works with that since they could hurt themselves and you in the process. And surely they are people that just cannot be lifted by one person.

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    No matter what size you are, you can wear a jacket with as many pockets as you want. Travel cheaper by looking like an vaudeville ex-army doomsday prepper with all your underwear stuffed into pockets of oversized cargo pants, three layers of socks and an entire towel as a toga shirt over your other shirts.

    Pro-tip: If you have a greasy paper bag they’ll think it’s food and won’t charge you for a carry-on.

    • kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
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      Dude, I barely fit in the seats now with my phone in my pocket and you want me to carry a weeks worth of clothing and travel sized toiletries on my person?

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      I did that once with camera gear. I stuffed lenses in all my pockets because my carry on bag was too heavy. “There, 5 kg off, happy ?”

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      I’m always cold when flying, so I just layer up. Jeans, sweatpants, short sleeve, long sleeve, sweater, jacket, hat. Then, I put various items in my various pockets. Phone, earbuds, snack bars, bar of soap, small articles of clothing, maybe a tshirt in my jacket pocket, a shoe in each sweatpants pocket. The rest goes in my carry on, no luggage fees.

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    Can I get the exact same picture but with an obese fat woman and a sexy male athlete, please? Or would that be inappropriate?

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    How is that logical that the man should pay extra cause he’s bigger/taller but small people should get extra luggage bonus?

    Not even taking into account that this very short lady will be far more comfortable during the flight than the gentleman.

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      Its not logical - Weight limits aren’t there for the flight, they’re there so the luggage handlers don’t injure themselves

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        Weight limits are critical for the flight. An overweight plane can fail to take off. The more weight in passengers a plane carries, the more weight in fuel they need to add. This extra fuel weight also requires more fuel to carry it. And so on and so on.

        There’s a tipping point with weight of passengers and cargo combined with flight duration where the plane becomes uneconomical to fly. Planes have crashed on takeoff because they were overweight but the weight was miscalculated. Temperature and weather also play a role.

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        Of course… What airline companies are most concerned about is the well being of their luggage handlers.

        Even if they claim that this is one of the reasons, it’s a by product of cost management.

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      Adding to that, people need to load all those suitcases in. The man doesn’t get carried into the plane.

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      The logic being that there is ~$0.82 USD per KG of fuel cost that has to be accounted for

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    Tell ya what. Make it as easy for me to pop off a pound as it is for someone else to take a hair dryer out of their luggage and I will happily pay for all the extra boobs I bring on board after I remove the weight everywhere else.

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    Y’all, these comments are not it. How are you more upset about fat people than how the airlines have given all our leg room and storage space to first class/business class?

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      The problem also exists on planes that don’t have separate classes. It’s not directly about class warfare in this case.

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      “One second, I just need to update some details before I can give you your boarding pass…”

      types into the terminal ‘customer wouldn’t let me weigh them, probably a fat fuck, recommend full body search at security checkpoint for contraband meals and soda’

      “Here you go, sorry about the delay, have a lovely day”

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    “Any time you think it’s not about the money, it’s about the money.”

    Mahatma Gandhi
    
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        They’ll gladly take your overweight bag if you give them extra…money. The airlines don’t care about baggage handlers.