• Rhynoplaz
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    589 days ago

    My biggest problem with most of the shows listed is they have to outdo themselves and go on for too long.

    Season one: Great premise!

    Season Two: Same premise, but TWICE the danger!

    Season three: I don’t know, robot ninjas or something?

    • @Zorque@lemmy.world
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      189 days ago

      I miss when shows could just grow in the first season or two, and then you’d only get raising stakes two or three times a year (season finale/premier and sweeps). Otherwise they’re just stories.

      These days shows have to justify themselves right out of the gate.

      • SSTF
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        99 days ago

        These days shows have to justify themselves right out of the gate.

        I miss mid-budget live action scifi shows with strong enough episodic elements that I can actually remember individual episodes. These days seemingly every show feels like an 8-12 movie that blurs together.

        Star Trek Strange New Worlds is the closest current thing to an exception. Before that The Orville.

        Most other scifi that comes out has to be an “event”.

        • @Zorque@lemmy.world
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          18 days ago

          The Orville had that in the first season or so, after that it went heavy into serialization. I dont think I even finished whatever the last season was because of it.

      • Dr. Moose
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        37 days ago

        The most infamous example of this is Supernatural where the first few seasons were very episodic and exactly what you described. Then, after season 5 it keep escalating until dudes are fighting off the end of the world for the 6th time lmao

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        59 days ago

        Riverdale actually did what I’ve always wished for a boring failure of a show to do, and just completely go nuts.

        Oh our boring high school drama show is slumping? How about an organ stealing cult, a superhero, and a guy escaping from the cops in a rocketship!

    • billwashere
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      98 days ago

      Same here. I always felt they were making fun of my fellow nerds and geeks as opposed to celebrating our intelligence and quirkiness. The writers obviously got the humor and nuance but chose to poke fun so that the rest of the world could laugh at it. I mean I understand why but I didn’t really like it for that reason.

    • @theblips@lemm.ee
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      I’ve been called “Sheldon” for my autistic traits in a degrading manner. The show plays autism for laughs plenty of times, and also ridicules the “nerds” all the time for no reason. It’s like a bunch of self proclaimed high school “jocks” wrote it

      • @idiomaddict@lemmy.world
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        The most infuriating part about it is I know that if I rant about how terrible bbt is, it will only cement me as Sheldon in their minds.

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    Never got the appeal of these ones. They aren’t bad shows, but they did not do it for me.

    Game of Thrones

    Lost

    Better Call Saul

    Peaky Blinders

    Breaking Bad

    • Shit. That’s exactly my list.

      • I didn’t even watch GoT long enough to see Emilia Clark in the buff. But, then, I’d read the first two books and absolutely loathed them, and didn’t find the TV series improved the story much.
      • I liked the first season of Lost, but the second felt like the writers were like, “oh shit… we got a second season? Shitshitshit…” Like they were just making it up as they went, and the writing and plot was just… bad.
      • I didn’t watch BCS because I didn’t like
      • Breaking Bad. I mean, I like scenes from BB, but the show itself suffered (for me) from this tendency in the past decade to base entire shows on tense anxiety. Boardwalk Empires was another that used this mechanism, as did
      • Peaky Blinders. Great writing. Great acting. But it’s just constant tension, and it’s simply not fun.

      It’s like directors got ahold of this one technique and just beat it into every fucking show in the past decade. It’s tired, overused, and you’ll notice it’s a common trait of many of the shows you and agree on. You have to have tension, but I didn’t need every god damned minute to be wondering if someone’s going to get their throat graphically slashed with a straight-edge.

      • MentalEdge
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        139 days ago

        Oh man! You just put to words why I couldn’t stand Breaking Bad, and Boardwalk Empire.

        I watched the first simply because a lot of people love it, and I try to watch everything that seems worth seeing. The second I saw some clips from that I really liked, but then I just didn’t stick with the actual show.

        In both cases, the series left me on constant edge, in a really bad way.

        Now I realize that I kept waiting for the shows to grant me some kind of catharsis, but it just never happened. Or it happened rarely and in ways that quickly gets brushed away as inconsequential.

        • chingadera
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          Y’all are trippin, the gus storyline in Better Call Saul/BB is likely my favorite villain of all time.

          Fair enough though, I was scared I was gonna see these shows listed in here and here we are!

      • @wjrii@lemmy.world
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        59 days ago

        this tendency in the past decade to base entire shows on tense anxiety.

        Yup. I call it the “drama of paranoia,” and it’s exhausting after a while. It also gives you a veneer of “prestige” without having to make characters I give a shit about or plots that fit together at all. As a good example of a show that realized this, Mad Men always struggled with a certain early-season plotline until they finally just ripped off the band-aid and said,

        spoiler

        the “real” Don Draper’s widow handwaves something out with our boy Dick, and literally nobody else gives a shit.

        What worked about that show had nothing to do with “ONE BIG SECRET.”

    • lemmyng
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      59 days ago

      This, plus The Sopranos, The Office, Parks & Rec, IASIP, 30 Rock, etc.

      I get that they’re well liked, and they are the source of lots of meme material, but I could never manage to get through a whole episode.

      • @ladytaters@lemmy.world
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        I’ve never been able to make it through an entire episode of Community, for the same reason. It’s memeable, but I just don’t find it funny at all.

  • @invertedspear@lemm.ee
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    Lost was the tv version of clickbait. 3 concurrent story lines rotated from week to week. Every episode a cliffhanger that you had to wait 2 more weeks to resolve into a nothing burger. Even watching that shit on disc or streaming is annoying as fuck. I might have liked what was going on story wise, but I got too annoyed with the format to get past mid season 2.

    • @pulsewidth@lemmy.world
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      Yeah. Lost was when I was intrugued by J J abrams style, and then completely turned off by his inability to tell a story or have a plan beyond the halfway point.

      And then they involved him in seemingly every major movie franchise ever for the next two decades… and he kept doing the same crap. Lots of flash and dazzle and dramatic moments that ultimately mean nothing because the characters have no story to tell, no real arc, no consistent rules creating a believable universe for the watcher to be sucked in to - any rules can be thrown out the window anytime a dramatic cliche opportunity arises. Yet he still seems very popular.

    • @theherk@lemmy.world
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      There is a recut of it, still available via torrent, called Chronologically LOST. It is every scene, but in chronological order, and only once each. Really cool way to see the show and make sense of it.

    • @tankplanker@lemmy.world
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      Lost went on far too long and they backed themselves into a corner by saying that the big secret was what nobody had guessed, but this was right around the Internet getting popular to talk about tv shows, so everything good had already been suggested. If it had been me, I would have just picked the best one and gone with that…

    • @happydoors@lemm.ee
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      17 days ago

      Unfortunately, mid season 2 is where it finally stops having enormous fluff and starts picking up pace. Fair criticisms though

  • SkaveRat
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    Walking dead. I think I finished the second episode. But I’m not even sure about that one. It was utterly boring

    • @invertedspear@lemm.ee
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      119 days ago

      Walking dead is the king of spreading 4 episodes of content across 12 episodes. You could watch the season opener, the 2 episodes that close the first half and start the second if each season, and the finale, and not miss anything of substance.

      • kratoz29
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        19 days ago

        Wait, is TWD available on the anime filler website?

    • @SRo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      You’ve seen the best. I stopped somewhere in the middle of S3 because it was so bad. S1 was tolerable but honestly only the pilot was good. Kids watched all of it so I’ve got an idea how it went on; like a bad and cheap soap opera

    • @tibi@lemmy.world
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      I watched the first 2 seasons or so. It felt like all the clichés from all the zombie movies put together in a single show, but worse.

    • @MrFinnbean@lemmy.world
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      The first few episodes were a slog, but it got much better.

      I recomment to give it a try. Maybe start straight from season 2.

  • @griefreeze@lemmy.world
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    Rick & Morty. Then the whole szechuan sauce thing happened and I can’t look at any content from that show without cringing. LOOK GUYS IM PICKLE RI-stop please it’s not funny.

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      The “community” is insufferable, but the show is solid. You might like Solar Opposites. The wall substory is amazing. Really good voice actors, can feel the tension and emotions in the voices

    • Is there even still any Rick and morty fans left in the wild? After the whole case against one of the voice actors I never see them around too much anymore.

      • HobbitFoot
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        188 days ago

        I like Rick and Morty, but I have enough self awareness to know that Rick is not a role model.

        • @Excrubulent@slrpnk.net
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          38 days ago

          My kid wanted to watch it together, and I was like, that’s fine as long as you let me tell you that Rick isn’t always right and he’s not the hero.

        • @GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca
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          Yeah, it’s funny because of how terrible everyone is. I’m laughing because it’s outrageous, not because the characters are going through relatable hijinks.

      • Rob T Firefly
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        Justin Roiland wasn’t just the voice actor for Rick, Morty, and various other roles, he was the co-creator, writer, and executive producer of the show alongside Dan Harmon. The whole thing is very much Roiland’s baby, and even after it came out that he’s an abuser and predator and the show fired him it continues to be his celebrated legacy.

        Fuck that guy and his stupid show.

        • HobbitFoot
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          108 days ago

          Roiland is a co-creator, but it is very obvious that Dan Harmon took over the show for the better.

          Hell, the takeover happened while Roiland was still voicing Rick, so it isn’t like something important was lost after Roiland was fired.

    • There’s a few shows where the fan base have made it so insufferable that I don’t want to even watch the show . But Rick and Morty are King in this category, the worst fans

    • Rob T Firefly
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      I initially found that show a bit interesting, but I found myself feeling more and more cringey about what the show was churning out. I outgrew the whole thing just as the sauce thing was happening

      It later became well known what an actual piece of shit Justin Roiland is, and I felt pretty glad not to have been stuck in that fandom still feeling like his work was of any importance to me.

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        Don’t even get me started about the SA scene(s?), especially the grape-man. I try not to judge people too harshly by their choice of mindless entertainment, but if you found that funny, or at least continue to find it funny, I don’t think I can take you seriously.

        Really triggered my partners PTSD too, so I wasn’t surprised at all when the Rolland stuff came to light.

  • ArxCyberwolf
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    The Walking Dead. Felt more like the Talking Dead, the pacing was far too slow for me and it didn’t seem like much was happening.

    • @iheartneopets@lemm.ee
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      Funny, the Talking Dead was a show that aired after that night’s episode every week back in the day. It was actually a highlight for me; they’d have the actors and effects artists in to discuss behind the scenes stuff. It was very fun watching Greg Nicotero talk shop

  • @adhocfungus@midwest.social
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    Yellowstone. With shows like The Sopranos or Sons of Anarchy you know the characters are evil, but you can connect just enough for it to be compelling.

    In Yellowstone it feels like they want you to see the characters as the heros, when they are mass-murdering, slave-owning oligarchs. They buy cops and politicians to gain power, but get bent on revenge if other powers don’t “play by the rules”. I didn’t last too long, but everyone else seems to love it.

    • @vividspecter@lemm.ee
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      I watched it for a while, but it just got stupider and stupider with every season. It’s a very American show, and it feels like conservative pandering much of the time (even though the show runner isn’t a conservative from what I hear).

    • Dr. Moose
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      27 days ago

      It’s a soap opera and if you treat it for what it is It’s quite fun! People who never watched soap set expectations too high and expected real plot and depth of a real TV show which it never set out to do.

      • @Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world
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        Yeah, last season was so boring and unsatisfying.

        There were so many ways that show could have gone which would have been good.

          • @Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world
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            I liked up to the end of the season with the time travel where they all jumped to different times a few years apart. Think it was season 2. After that, i just didn’t feel the show was coherent or interesting.

      • Dr. Moose
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        27 days ago

        Such a shame too. The premise looked really interesting at first.

    • @GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee
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      119 days ago

      I made it one episode. Extremely well done show about a tragically terrible flaw of American society that frustrates me daily. Didn’t need a reminder of how terrible things are.

    • @tibi@lemmy.world
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      I gave up on it once, and then continued at a later date. I felt that the mid seasons were a bit of a grind, but the last season goes up to 11 with an extremely satisfying ending.

    • I couldn’t make it past the first episode, i thought it was a corny tv version of dawn of the dead with no balls. I saw bits of it as my wife was watching but it only got worse and cheesier

    • thermal_shock
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      17 days ago

      You mean people with little to no firearm experience firing from moving vehicle windows getting headshots was too realistic?

  • @DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    The Mandalorian

    Noped out after season 1. They revealed his face during a filler episode, during a boring scene, instead of waiting an episode or two longer for the real gut punch reveal at the end of the last episode.

    It was stupid. It killed what would have been one of the best face reveals in cinema history. I had no patience for the show after that. Almost didn’t bother finishing the rest of the season. I don’t really care what their reasons were. Contractual. Whatever. Don’t care.