True, but it also reminds us what happens when someone on Lemmy gets downvoted, reported and banned for having their own valud standpoint, which is not accepted by the majority of us.
We should keep in mind that we are prone to making the same mistake.
We are, but at the same time having parallel communities helps with that
!world@lemmy.world mods are regularly featured in !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com , which leads more and more people to alternatives like !world@quokk.au
Lmao it’s like the ancient https://www.reddit.com/r/KarmaCourt/ except real, i love it
Enjoy, lot of things happening there
I wonder what percentage of your comments are about pushing people off of LW.
LW mods generally don’t have more than one major community. It’s not a rule, but we have made a bit of an effort to avoid reddit-style supermods.
- !lemmyworld@lemmy.world
- !homeimprovement@lemmy.world : https://lemmy.zip/post/35932658
- !books@lemmy.world : https://lemmy.zip/post/36097431?scrollToComments=true
- !support@lemmy.world :
But yeah, sure, keep pushing an agenda while !world@lemmy.world is featured in YPTB every week:
don’t have more than one major community.
Same mod on
- world@lemmy.world: 17.8K users / month
- politics@lemmy.world: 16.5K users / month
So what? At least they’re not tankies.
You realize that is a textbook ‘whataboutism’, right?
I think that is their main feature. To cut off the fringes of leftism and socialist ideas so it has a nice round and smooth bottom
Framing the Overton Window.
A feature for some, an anti-feature for others.
In many ways Lemmy is so much worse the echo chamber than Reddit ever was.
A leftist/socialist/communist/Linux echo chamber is always better than a liberal one.
@ me
Have you been in reddit lately, not even close
Happened to a ton of trans people on .blahaj
The 196 community didn’t like the rule that forced them to repsect a troll that was using the gender “dragonfucker” to mock and invalidate real gender identities and sexualities.
Instead of banning a single troll they banned dozens of users off the most popular community on blahaj and triggered the community to make a 196 community on .world
I am still convinced ‘Drag’ legitimately has dissociative identity disorder and isn’t a troll in the sense of … ‘i am in full control of my faculties and choose to act as caricature to
sewsow chaos’…But yeah, that whole… thing… was fucking bonkers.
triggered the community to make a 196 community on .world
Triggered the mods to try to move the community to .world without even asking the community members first
That happened to some people in a community I used to run then I moved it to !news_summary@hilariouschaos.com where the rules are different. We are decentralised so if people get censored in one place they can move to another. The fediverse is a true embodiment of freedom and the marketplace of ideas.
I’m banned from about 180 subs because a mod here decided he didn’t like my version of reality.
Everytime I post and I’m told I’m banned from whatever community I never posted in before I block that sub.
Why would I want any part of a sub that blindly and aggressively censors opinions they don’t agree with? That would be stupid, so I leave them to their bubble
What’s your version of reality?
Lemmy and any social media platform that bans or censors because the post or comment contradicts the majority is wrong. By majority I mean those using that specific social media platform. In many cases that majority opinion is actually NOT the majority opinion of society as a whole.
If you are looking for closed communities like conservatives and ml then yea they don’t allow much disagreement against them. They are there because reddit banned them at some point for the same thing
In many cases on social media the “majority” opinion is crafted by external entities.
Except for Luigi. They couldn’t control that one.
Meanwhile lemmy appears to self select Linux users
Early adopters and technical users are more likely to be free/libre users.
I assume this is your opinion, but you present it as a scientifically proven fact.
I’ve been online since early 1990s and this is my repeated empirical experience that communities with a technical entry threshold self-select for technical users initially.
Most social network users are already hopelessly confused by the concept of federation and need to pick up an instance.
Are you suggesting this is some kind of modern usenet?
In a sense. There was a varying threshold technical bareer of entry to BBS, ARPANET/Internet, email, Usenet (uucp over dialup for early adopters), mailing lists, forums and communities like Hacker News, even early Reddit and Digg.
Is there any instance that has a poll for Linux questions for the registration yet? If there isn’t I would be surprised.
I assume they’re just making more noise.
I mean, it’s really no different on here. Giant echo chambers.
We’re a smaller chamber but a lot more echo.
We’re a smaller chamber but a lot more echo.
echo…echo
And by choice. Uh, a user has a different opinion than me by about 2 %? BLOCKED FOR LIVE MOTHRFUCKER
Agreed. Is there any Lemmy group where left, right, and center can discuss issues without some resorting to name calling?
I don’t know of any place people can discuss issues without name calling.
Of course you don’t, you shoe.
Moccasin behaviour, fr.
Agreed
The issues the right care about are Haitians eating cats and dogs. How do you not call them idiots?
There aren’t Lemmy groups where left, right, OR center can do that
agreed
Nah, we ban fascists cause fascists are asshole losers who only want to be taken seriously.
I imagine you yelling this into a chamber and literally listening for the echo.
Imagine he got banned from reddit for saying the same thing, trolling and spamming
Lemmy taught me a fascist is just anyone we disagree with
I’m 14 and this is deep.
That’s literally all of the Internet, not just Reddit. Everyone putting themselves in echo chambers and tuning everything else out. Modern Internet is just people wanting to be told they’re right and be showered with worthless affirmations.
I wouldn’t say Lemmy is much better though… It’s just Reddit but not on Reddit.
It has a similar problem, but a better version of it.
From my point of view, Lemmy creates its bubble just by being friendly to one subset of views and hostile to another; and so people with some subsets of views don’t feel welcome - and they leave. This creates a kind of bubble effect; but I’m ok with that - because frankly there are some views that I really don’t want to see here anyway. Having diversity of views is good, but establishing social norms about what is acceptable or unacceptable isn’t necessarily a bad thing either.
On the other hand Reddit (in addition to the above effect) also has a big dose of top-down enforcement. Effectively it has a small hidden group of people who can control what everyone else is allowed to say. They can ban certain words and sentiments; and use techniques like shadowbanning or just algorithmic demoting to reduce the influence of stuff they don’t like. So they get a bubble as well, but the bubble can be guided and influenced by the people who control the platform. For my point of view, that makes it worse.
Lemmy users are not better… but Lemmy is.
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According to the investor page from Reddit, they have 100 million unique users. Kicking a few hundred here and there doesn’t have an impact on that number. At that point individual users are worthless to the firm.
Ironic how they refered to their rule #1 “Remember the human”, when I got permabanned for litterly nothing.
50 milliion are bots, a large amount of them are probably RU
They ban those who agree, but it’s misconstrued as the opposite too
To me the Bitcoin and crypto subs were a really weird place. Like 1 in 10 are long term investors and the rest are like “lol just wasted my grandparents savings I’m done. And just 20.”
The futurism sub was the fucking weirdest, at least for a really popular front-page sub. Every other post in there is some kind of bizarre prayer to the machine god or something. There are literally people in there planning for how they’re going to use all their free time and wealth once they gain access to some kind of digital messiah AI that they think is going to emerge sometime in the next several years (or the last several years, they’re really loose with predictions) and when it does, it will grant them and everyone else god-like powers to play the stock market and become fabulously wealthy and immortal.
None of that is a joke. When asked about how literally everyone can become wealthy, they usually just pile on you for being “narrow minded” and make references to how a very small number of people back in the 80’s doubted the internet was going to be a big deal.
Singularity lol, any ai sub sucks if you were actually curious about technical info and its progress, they only would post sensationalized shit like full ai generation, nothing interesting like how davincis dropping ai magic mask, which should compete with ai plugins for adobe after effects, no idea if they drop a colormatching one but if they do resolves even more peak than it already is
The AGI predictions crack me up. “Full AGI 2026”. It’s always a year away.
Isn’t that like wsb most of the time, they act like nothing biggie. Alot of them are rich or trolls
Powerful reddit energy in this post
Reddit is just edgy self aware facebook.
I’m all in for discarding opinions. As long as who post them can argue in a civil maner, show souces and accept objective data.
Totally agree. As soon as you see name calling you know the person is a clown. And “I think” or “I feel” is not undeniable facts. I will disagree with “objective data” which sounds like not accepting the source. Forget the source. Something is either true or it isn’t.
Yeah instead we just defederate them
Also, “they” is currently 80% chatbots
Fuck reddit, fuck spez
Banning is just an administrative action. The sentiment behind it is just as present on lemmy and everywhere else. Social forums tend to turn into echo chambers as ordinary users, who don’t have ban power but wish they did, use downvotes to suppress whatever they don’t agree with.
