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Are we tired of winning yet America ?
Tbh I was tired way before any of this.
Not until Nintendo picks up and moves to America.
Unfortunately, we’ll probably keep winning for at least the next few months, it looks like the party is just getting started.
Pre-orders for Nintendo Switch 2 in the U.S. will not start April 9, 2025 in order to assess the potential impact of tariffs and evolving market conditions. Nintendo will update timing at a later date. The launch date of June 5, 2025 is unchanged.
Wonder if the price of the console and even the cartridge games will change.
I think they necessarily will. I can’t imagine retailers eating the lost margin.
Retailers won’t eat it all, consumers will
More like retailers won’t eat any of it and will take the opportunity to raise prices even more because they know consumers are expecting higher prices and they have pressure to retain or increase their margins to meet shareholder expectations.
Cartridge games for the Switch 2 aren’t even cartridge games anymore, haven’t you heard? There’s no game on the cartridges just a passkey.
Dammm, the best part is everyone speculated that the price it’s at now was to predict and get ahead of tarrif pricing by already setting it higher. The fact that it’s not is scary.
I think the $450 USD was just keeping up with inflation.
$300 in March 2017 when the switch originally launched is equivalent to almost $400 today ($392 and some change). S2 is launching at $450, if they were only expecting 15%-ish tariffs then maybe, but it should then be cheaper outside of the US if tariffs were the only reason. Electronic component prices have gone up beyond inflation growth, I think it would be easier to blame it on that.
$80-90 games before tariffs sucks, but games have been $60 for as long as I can remember, and they’re only getting more expensive to make.
No, it’s one of the most expensive Nintendo consoles ever. Only beat by the NES and the SNES. Those released when prices were at all time highs for this stuff.
Would tariffs apply to the games as well?
Physical copies if they are made outside the US, digital no iirc
Ahh so software can cross borders for free. Then presumably they can just rent a shed somewhere to write data to what ever storage media they use these days.
and some games arnt even worth 60$ to begin with
I would say it’s more that some studios are spending even more to make them, games don’t have to cost more to make as you can now make a lot more with a smaller team than you could 20 years ago.
That was the first thing I thought of too.
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Did anyone check with reddit
Blanket no on that one
Surprised Reddit just hasn’t shut down r/Nintendo since Spez and Musk are scared of a 5 letter word.
Still scared.
Nope.
*in the USA
Edit: apparently they’ve later come out and said Canada will be included. I dunno. I’ve stopped following.
All of North America actually.
🤣 all those Republican Nintendo fans have to love all this winning. What a bunch of dumbasses.
I really wonder how big that demographic is. My impression is that most Republicans would be culturally turned off by Nintendo’s brand.
Everyone pissing themselves over Nintendo not putting the price in the Direct when the reason why was pretty obvious, I thought.
This is the kind of creature comfort inconvenience that will tank this administration’s popularity. Americans are fickle and will not accept this kind of disruption to their lives.
One can only hope, but knowing how fucking stupid my right-wing, sycophantic, fellow countrymen are I doubt much will change.
Pretty sure everyone who voted against him already hates him though.
I’ve been feeling like there are quite a few parallels to the Brexit mess in this past election and this administration’s policies. It took a while for the reality of Brexit to evaporate away the magical thinking; I think it’s just a matter of time before the same happens here as the cost of living shoots up as a result of these tariffs.
I’m going to hold onto the spark of your optimism until I can light my own; your perspective does help and I hadn’t considered it. Thank you /gen /pos
The only issue is, it took years for that reality to sink into the minds of the electorate in the UK, and in the meantime the UK’s economy suffered considerably.
More importantly, people who don’t pay attention to politics and didn’t realize that any of this had any consequences to their lives just suddenly felt it
I see a lot of people ragging on the switch and comparing it to the Steam Deck. I own both but
I’m gonna say this: they’re not even direct competitors. They don’t offer the same experiences at all.
The beauty of the Switch is the ease of use, modularity of control, and communal nature of it. Even if switch online sucks, playing with other switches or 8 people in the same room with certain games is unbelievably easy. The plug and play usability and every single game you can buy from the internal store just works.
Not to mention the dock is flawless and literally easy to use. For all its problems, the switch is a surprisingly well executed idea. There’s a reason they sold hundreds of millions of them.
Steam is catching up, but there’s still a ways to go between proton compatible games, connecting controllers, plugging into a dock without having to bend down and plug a cable etc. The Switch is simply put: easy.
That said, Nintendo is stupid for pricing the Switch 2 out of the “no brainer” casual gamer territory.
As owner and early adopter of both - disagree.
Switch is gathering dust for me and everytime I pull it out i feel like getting my steamdeck instead.
The only exception I can think off is low profile traveling but that’s a very small niche if people.
Yeah, people are bitching about first party titles never going down in price, meanwhile I’m here enjoying my 300Eur indie machine.
Also most of Nintendo’s target audience has no idea that the Steam Deck exists. Like if a kid asks their parents for a Switch 2 the parents aren’t going to suggest the Steam Deck since they don’t know what it is. Nintendo does a shit ton of traditional advertising, the Nintendo brand has an enormous mind share among the general audience. The mind share for Steam is almost non existent outside of PC gamers.
And many kids I know who play PC games don’t even have Steam installed. Since they only play Roblox and Fortnite on their PC. Nintendo is not competing with the Steam Deck. Their real competition is Apple and Android because of Fortnite, Roblox and TikTok.
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That’s a bit unnecessary. I’m just pointing out people are trying to compare two things that aren’t the same.
By that logic though, I think Nintendo has a “dumb cock” for charging as much as they are for Switch 2, so I’m not really sure what it tastes like.
For the US only, lol
Where does it say that?
Pre-orders for Nintendo Switch 2 in the U.S. will not start April 9, 2025 in order to assess the potential impact of tariffs and evolving market conditions.
From the article.
Not sure if the same thing but in Japan the Pre-purchase reservation lottery has already opened.
That’s weird, I don’t see that anywhere but to right of the picture I have:
Nintendo says preorders will no longer start on April 9th, but the console’s June 5th release date is unchanged.
I wonder if it’s because I’m in Europe?
I made a search on the page for some of the key words, and the quote you made does NOT appear for me?
And still with the quote, it doesn’t say if it’s ONLY changed for US?
guess i will stick with this one🥲
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I delayed my preorder when I saw the bullshit price gouging for game prices.
Have you seen that nowhere is selling switch games for $90?
Look into it.
Where did I say $90?
Look into it
I’m sorry, i guess i took it as implied. I think that’s a fair assumption because what else could you mean by price gouging when all people have been talking about is the $90 games?
If that’s not what you meant, then what did you mean?
$80, $90, and even $100 games lmao. Even $70 is too much.
I guess it is. But why pretend this is something new? Games have always been expensive. Ps1 games were between 40 and 60 dollars when they came out. That’s almost 110 dollars accounting for inflation on about 50 dollars then.
The ps1 itself would cost almost 800 dollars today, accounting for inflation.
Game prices haven’t really followed along with inflation. The 60 dollar game has been a thing since i was a child in the 90s.
I agree that perhaps 80 dollars is a lot for a game, and maybe they should be priced lower than 1 quarter the cost of the console, but thats a different argument.
What i am saying, again, is this is nothing new, and i think this outrage is symptomatic of “short-term memory loss”.
I wish games were cheaper. But ragging on nintendo for charging less than they used to for n64 games (when accounting for inflation) and selling a console that plays ps5 games for less than a ps5. Is a bit strange. I also think the portability of the switch is something neither of the big 2 have. The playstation portal is half the cost of a ps5 and has to be on the same wifi as the ps5.
I just dont see why people think this is so egregious.
Because it is egregious. Wow solved that for you. Write an essay somewhere else about how you love Nintendo so much.
So after reading about how, when accou ting for inflation, games are actually cheaper today than they should be. Your whole counter is. “Hur dur, because no, dont write paragraphs, me not read more than 20 seconds. Hur dur” yeah good one…
In fact. I dont care if you realise it or not. I dont need your validation. Im in my 30s. I’m nearly 40. i have been gaming since the sega master system. That’s fairly early doors for gaming. Its super early for console gaming. I know what i am talking about, i have been alive for long enough and paid for enough games to know what i am talking about.
The fact that you are just going to downvote me and offer absolutely nothing to counter my argument is enough for me to know you are EITHER too young to k ow about any of this, or being purposfully ignorant to jump on the rage wagon.
The fact you automatically think i am schilling for nintendo because my argument passively defends them (its actually an argument defending all game pricing) is just evidence of your immaturity.
Grow up, eh?
You can still get a Steam Deck and save a ton of games.
Nintendo going to suck trump dick so they can get the pricepoint they want.
No they won’t. They’ll just ship extra units to Canada and Mexico to account for fans going across the border to buy them.
The Switch 2 looks like absolute garbage so they can keep it.
My next console purchase with be a Steam Deck.
I’ll probably get the Switch 2 eventually, but not for a year or two. I also have a Steam Deck, and they’re both great.
I’ll be interested to see a comparison between the Steam Deck and Switch 2 since the Switch 2 could have better performance (but probably comparable).
That’s the thing. It’s 2025. The Switch came out in 2017 and the Switch 2 is barely a step up from the Switch OLED. Which, BTW, isn’t even and option on the Switch 2. And 256 memory? Is that a joke? Plus their new scheme is to not have the games on the physical cartridge but to only have a key code on the cartridge that transfers to the console. And that’s not even looking and the drastically inflated price of the games. Not just new games but all the old ones are priced out at $80 to $90 a piece as well.
Uh, what?
The Switch OLED was a slight improvement in battery, a better screen, and a nicer kickstand. That’s it.
The Switch 2 is an all new SOC, 1080p (more than the 1200x800 on Steam Deck) @ 120 hz, and a few other improvements. It’s pretty comparable to the Steam Deck, just in a smaller form factor with a larger screen. We don’t have direct head-to-head testing yet, but I expect it will trade blows with the Steam Deck, perhaps surpassing it in some games.
only have a key code on the cartridge that transfers to the console
That’s not the only option on Switch 2, it’s just an additional one. I imagine most games will still have the classic game card available.
I’m not happy about it, but I can see people preferring it to regular digital purchases for things like gifts.
Not just new games but all the old ones are priced out at $80 to $90 a piece as well.
That’s a completely separate complaint from the console, and I’m really not sure why you brought it up. Nintendo doesn’t compete on price for its games, they compete on IPs, gameplay, and overall experience.
Ask about your use case
You might do better with just a htpc
And many smart TVs can use the Steam Link app, so you may not need any new hardware at all if you just want to connect your PC to your TV.
