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Israeli forces have been accused of executing handcuffed Palestinian medics before burying them in a mass grave underneath their crushed ambulances in southern Gaza’s Rafah.
Fifteen humanitarian workers went missing last week after responding to a distress call from civilians being attacked by Israeli forces.
The workers include eight paramedics from the Palestine Red Crescent Society (PRCS), six members of the Palestinian Civil Defence search-and-rescue teams, and one UN staff member.
They were found over the weekend in a mass grave with at least around 20 multiple gunshots in each one of them, according to Mahmoud Basal, spokesperson for the Palestinian Civil Defence in Gaza.
At least one of them had their legs bound, another was decapitated and a third topless, he added.
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I’m not against Jews, I’m against Israel. It appears that the lesson they learned from the Nazis is how to commit atrocities.
It’s almost as if the lesson should be that Jews aren’t unique and are just like any other people. And if you put any group of people into an explicit ethnostate, that group of people is going to turn into Nazis.
Most countries around the world are based on ethnicity/national identity. Yet they all don’t manage to turn into Nazis. It’s not the state type its the choice made by its people.
There is a difference between having a dominant ethnic identity and being an ethnostate.
Israel is only 75% Jewish 🤷
Obviously they’re trying to be an ethnostate and like to commit genocide. But it’s not like they’re doing that purely bc it’s only one group of people within their borders.
You cannot expect atrocities to lead to anything good. We see it in gaza right now, the ongoing genocide will breed more terrorists and more conflicts.
Exactly, anyone with two braincells realizes the implications.
Do you go in blazing, making it clear you’re trying to minimize collateral damage and treat people with respect while getting the job done?
Or do you go in blazing, setting people’s houses on fire and killing medics?
which is part of the plan. without constant conflict the likes of Bibi Hitleryahu could never obtain power.
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none of his conflict is about Judaism or Islam. it’s about colonialism. jews who were expelled during the inquisition found a safe haven in lands of muslims. they lived side by side for decades.
the unfortunately intense antisemitism you may find among Muslim populations is because of what happened to Palestine in the name of zionism.
the way Israel insists that they represent jews and Judaism breeds antisemitism. which is what they want by the way. jews experiencing antisemitism around the world gives them more potential colonizing power.
they also want you to think this is about religion because it becomes easy to dismiss and both-sides the issue and distract from the fact that it is about ethnic cleansing and genocide.
Zionism isn’t a religious colonizing movement? Is Israel not a Jewish ethnostate? To say that this isn’t related to Judaism in some way is disingenuous.
if anything it’s a christian colonialist project. the superstars of colonialism, the brits are mainly to thank here. but all of that is besides my point.
again, jews and arabs lived side by side before Israel was a state. jews were Jewish and arabs were mostly Muslim back then as well. if it really were about religious differences they wouldn’t be living in peace before. it’s not the religion, it’s politics. and war crimes.
Why set up a Jewish state if it wasn’t the goal? Look I get it, anti-Semitism is shit. Jews are targeted for something that they aren’t responsible for. But all of these politics and war crimes are, unfortunately, covered in Jewish flavor. That’s a problem for all Jews, I think. To combat this by saying religion has no part in this isn’t working.
they set up a Jewish state because european countries didn’t want to accept Jewish migrants. they used the holy land as an excuse to tell Jewish people to fuck off to Palestine where they can replace some brown people rather than bother white christians.
again, if the problem was really the religion it would be there before the establishment of the Israeli state. I’m telling you that the religions of both peoples were constant while the political move was the variable that changed. that’s how you find causes, however much you’d like to chalk this up to religion bad.
I hear the same shit from people who blame Iran’s situation on their religion when again it was clearly the very blatant meddling of colonial forces. they had the same religion before and after the revolution. the thing that changed was the US replacing a democratically elected head of state with a stooge. people love to cover for the atrocities of western powers by pretending it’s all about religious disputes.
Why does Israel decry it’s criticism of the genocide as anti-semitism if it has nothing to do with it’s religion? Israelis do use Judaism as a justification for their actions, is that not in doubt? Whatever happened in the past has no bearing on the immense suffering caused by a flag that symbolizes Judaism right now.
Isn’t it far* older than that? Didn’t Israel commit the main genocide in the Old Testament? Religious people tell me that’s a historical document.
To me, this same holy war has been raging for millennia and I really wish we’d outgrow it.
I don’t think it’s fair to tie history that far back to current people. Maybe it’s context for what’s going on now, idk, but it’s wrong to point to it as some sort of gotcha.
There’s more than enough damning history just looking back one week.
It wasn’t meant as a gotcha, just an observation that they didn’t learn from the Nazis, near the same holy war has been going for a really long time with a few names changing, and it’s tiresome.
This is a misunderstanding of how modern Israel got to its current state.
There were Jews in Palestine before the state of Israel was established.
The issue isn’t some ancient conflict, it’s that without working with the natives of the region, the British government and UN unilaterally declared that they were making a colonialist ethnostate and took land from the native population for that purpose.
This isn’t some biblical tale as old as time. The region was (relatively) peaceful.
It’s very similar the gigantic fuck up of the India Pakistan split based on religion.
As it turns out, religious ethnostates established by the displacement of natives creates a huge cluster fuck.
And even with all that, things are as bad as they are today because over the last 3 decades Israel has used every conflict as a tool to militarize and isolate Palestinians.
Palestinians aren’t blameless, but they’ve been blamed enough for the problems of Israel. Much like the IRA’s bombings were uncalled for, that doesn’t mean Britain wasn’t to blame for a lot of the problems of Ireland.
Not that Britain was blameless here, but they didn’t really have a choice. The Zionist terrorists were going to take country by force, so Britain/UN just capitulated, legitimising and putting in power that group.
Jesus fucking christ this is some evil shit.
for a country that loves to talk about their right to exist, they sure as fuck try their best to disprove they have that right at all. nazi germany didn’t have a right to exist.
Condoning or condemning atrocities has rarely been about the race, nationality, religion, etc. of who was harming or being harmed. Whoever is in power at the time decides what is condoned or condemned.
20th century Jews were at the mercy of a seemingly-unstoppable German force. Now that Israel are largely in charge of the immediate region, they set the tone, forgetting what had been done to their ancestors.
Americans weep and gnash teeth over foreign atrocities while standing on the blood of Indigenous people their powerful ancestors were perfectly fine murdering just to gain land.
African tribes slaughtered each other long before becoming victims of Euro/American slavery.
I’m not justifying any of it. Just saying it’s the ebb and flow of who is in power at the time that determines who gets to decide what’s condoned or condemned, not the race, etc. of the aggressor or victim. Over centuries and millennia, many/most nations and peoples will take turns giving and receiving atrocities. All you need is an evil leader and just enough supporters to make it seem “ok enough”.
Theres an active ongoing genocide happening and you are talking about ebb and flow? What the actual fuck. Fuck off. Use your words and voice to speak out against it not defend it you privileged fucking asshole.
It’s sad to see you have such low comprehension skills, if you think I’m defending it. I do hope you get better. EDIT: Holy shit, your comment history. Please seek professional help.
Fucking hell… I mean how many blatant war crimes does Israel need to commit before countries start condemning them. Goddammit, seriously
The US is the behind this 100% we don’t even have a ballot option against it
We give them the weapons to do it, then drive aid trucks through their territory in a token effort to help the Gazans, it’s goddamn shameful.
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one side would have likely been more open to continued pressure to shift stances after the election
I don’t believe this at all, if it’s true can you tell me what makes you think that? Because neither the Biden or Harris campaign gave me any indication that they would stop arming and defending this genocide
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So your answer to my question “what made you think there was any chance Harris would stop arming this genocide” is vibes
You read between the lines and imagined some good intent on her part that wasn’t there, it was just in your mind
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You are a privileged and racist piece of shit. They literally said and defended the US funding and arming Israel.
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Fuck you, no they wouldnt have you racist piece of shit. They literally said they will keep funding Israel.
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At this point there is none. They have been doing shit like this for decades. Israel was founded by terrorists and on terrorism.
Money money money… Money!
They opened fire on French forces too in Lebanon.
It’s getting fucking spicy and real weird that European Jewish refugees are building their own Auschwitz next door.
AP telling the same story. Looked like Reuters was, as well, at a quick glance. So I guess this is confirmed.
What a terrible thing.
I’ll never get enough of saying it: this is happening with the help and support of your government
How do you know what country we’re in?
Are all nations helping Israel? That seems unlikely.
name one that isn’t or that isn’t part of an alliance doing it
around 20 multiple gunshots in each one of them […] one of them had their legs bound, another was decapitated
Oh that’s not good
The Israeli military said in an initial statement that trucks were struck because they were being used by Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad.
Ah thank goodness for a clear explanation
… Fucking hell. What is wrong with Israel.
Selfrighteousness would be the most likely answer
Far right wing government, a president (PM in their case) that has multiple credible cases of corruption against him and is holding onto power desperately to try to avoid prosecution.
Sound familiar?
But their shills in the West will make sure that if you raise your voice, depending on your legal status, you will be slandered, roughed up by police, have your degree revoked, snatched up from your family or in the middle of the street, and deported.
And they will use the charge of antisemitism as a cudgel, all the while playing into all the worst antisemitic tropes and preparing the ground for the next round of actual antisemitic violence.
Zionism hurts Palestinians first, people who stand up for humanity second, all Jews third. It’s a shit ideology.
Not surprised. There’s a video out there with a journalist interviewing older IDF veterans who talk about murdering Palestinian civilians and the sick bastards are smiling.
Just when one thinks IDF has reached rock bottom depravity, some war criminal finds a way to go deeper.
I hope the pepetrators (and if a command was given, their commanders, and if directions were given, the political leaders) are held responsible.
It will take a lot of time and maneuvering. Politically, Israel must lose status and become considerably weaker before justice can occur. Meanwhile, the ICC must gain status and become considerably more influential. Then…
Here is some of the footage of the digging up of the bodies for those who want video evidence:
God damn. If there’s a god, just wait.
Safely presuming there isn’t, these assholes gotta get found and destroyed just like people have done with former nazi commanders and stuff.
Have you ever given consideration to the fact that there may be a God… but they are malevolent, not benevolent?
I intend to destroy them and the devil both if the opportunity ever arises.
If the IDF scum are ever held to account, the decent people of the world should next go after their own leaders for blindly supporting these atrocities and not stopping them earlier. The genocide of the Palestinians is a blight on many western so-called liberal democracies.
