The EU foreign policy chief has declared that “the free world needs a new leader”, as European leaders threw their support behind Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, after the stunning White House confrontation between him and Donald Trump.

Leaders from across Europe expressed their solidarity with the Ukrainian leader after the fractious exchange with JD Vance, the US vice-president, and Trump, who claimed he was not “ready for peace” and accused him of “gambling with world war three”.

Although in general, the European leaders did not name the US president, their comments late on Friday laid bare the gaping rift between the US and its traditional allies in Europe over the war in Ukraine.

In a social media post, Kaja Kallas, the EU high representative for foreign affairs and security policy, wrote: “Ukraine is Europe! We stand by Ukraine. We will step up our support to Ukraine so that they can continue to fight back the aggressor.

“Today, it became clear that the free world needs a new leader. It’s up to us, Europeans, to take this challenge.”

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  • Placebonickname@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    This isn’t about supporting Europe or NATO or Ukraine. This is about not capitulating to a hostile dictatorship that likes to invade other people‘s territories without provocation. 

    • GrundlButter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      6 months ago

      Exactly. How much of your country and resources will you be willing to give up when Russia and their useful idiot comes knocking? If the answer isn’t everything, you should probably help Ukraine make a stand now before the “peace deal” results in loosened sanctions and before Russia starts to re-arm.

      • Ledericas@lemm.ee
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        6 months ago

        Zelensky know its a bad deal, no concessions on Putin’s part, and also he’s not physically there, sent his golden retriever so his bidding

    • Noobnarski@lemmy.world
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      It’s always the same thing, a state that used to work “together” with russia no longer want’s to be a slave to russia and work with other countries.

      Russia doesn’t want that, so they attack.

      It happened to Georgia before it happened to Ukraine.

      • Placebonickname@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        I can’t find it right now, but there was actually an interview where someone asked Donald Trump about the Russian invasion of the Crimea area and he didn’t know how to respond & came off sounding like a complete dickhead 

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    6 months ago

    This is what REAL strength looks like…not the pseudo-macho bullshit that Trump and Vance just tried to pull.

  • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world
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    Trump just proved that he isn’t even capable of running a meeting, much less a country.

    Even if we ignore everything else about Trump, scandals, history, etc. that meeting alone showed he is incapable of meeting the requirements of the office.

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    I do hope that Trump is the galvanizing force that pushes the people of the EU (and perhaps others) towards Ukraine support, as well as everything else Trump and the right hate. The far right is gaining too much support, but if your average right leaning or moderate EU citizen sees just how bad it’s working out for the US, it might chill that movement a bit. At least, I hope so.

    • Tuukka R@sopuli.xyz
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      I don’t think the right-leaning EU citizens recognise this as a problem with the right. It’s too easy to say this is “an America specific problem” and “We’d never vote in a dumbass such as Trump.”

      I honestly think this kind of learning will happen here absolutely not at all.

      • taiyang@lemmy.world
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        Yeah, unfortunately with how people think, you’re probably right. The average person anywhere isn’t noticing a global trend here.

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    No matter how this shakes. The damage is done. No matter what happens going forward nobody can or should trust the US to be a reliable partner in any way. Not economically or militarily because we’re psychotic. Nationally bipolar. You might get a stable trustworthy partner in one election only to get an insane wannabe dictator in 4 years time who flips the table and burns all the bridges. You can’t trust us with anything on a longer timeline than 2-4 years. And that is the surest path to international irrelevancy.

    This will be “The Moment” spoken about in history books where US Hegemony collapsed. Count on it. Because no matter what happens. This is the new paradigm. We cannot be trusted.

    • Devanismyname@lemmy.ca
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      Lots of other countries have democracy like the us but it’s the huge difference between your political parties as well as social media making the rift bigger each election cycle. I think once you guys get rid of the social media, you guys can come back.

    • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world
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      Well, yeah, but that happened back in the '60s with Vietnam. What we’re seeing here isn’t America becoming the villain, it’s America becoming the kind of incompetent villain that even their minions turn on.

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    It certainly was a kick to the European diplomatic nuts and removed any doubt if reasonable negotiation is possible. Niet l now it’s clear on what they’re dealing with for the war, NATO and trade.

  • Ramen 🍜(she/her)@lemmy.ml
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    Wouldn’t “mount support” instead of “throw” have been a better choice of words? Writing style aside, I hope Europe gets together and pushes the Ruzzians out of Ukraine.

    • DigitalDilemma@lemmy.ml
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      Each will send their old or excess stock, or newly manufacturer weapons.

      Some of the old stock may include weapons bought from the US previously, but it’s very unlikely Europeans will be buying new weapons and supplies from US to give to Ukraine. France, Germany Italy, Spain and the UK all have significant arms manufacturing ability and have ability to scale up quickly. (Reference)

      Many European leaders (including business leaders) are extremely reticent to enter into new supply deals of any kind with the US given the recent trade volatility.

      • in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        The only reason Europe refrained from being a weapons powerhouse was part of our ally with America after WW2 was that they would do it and profit. Now Europe can be like “🤷 Oh well, guess we’ll be the MIC now” and shady weapons dealers will be like “Sorry America, better business elsewhere where they don’t skimp on materials and safety inspection.” Also people don’t remember just how much more dependent America is on the rest of the world than anyone is dependent on America. Putin is glad not because he’s gonna win Ukraine, but he managed to hop over Europe entirely and headshot America successfully. I think Putin could die happy of his mysterious health problems knowing he successfully carried Russia to victory vs the USA.

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    European leaders should have a summit in the oval office to sign an agreement to protect Ukraine. Each leader should bring their own ceremonial pen with which to sign the agreement. The summit should be on 15th March.

    What is SS gonna do, shoot all the leaders of western europe?