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So, piracy is legal if you don’t distribute? What the fuck is Zuck smoking?
Elitism. He is of the belief that he is better than you, and doesn’t live in the same world as you.
And the copyright owners have no problem with them profiting from derived works that were made using pirated content?
you can download it, but you can’t use it. so restrictive :(
So not just they pirated them, which may or may not be a crime and where I may or may not be impartial, but they are also leeches who would be banned on any decent torrent tracker of the olden days.
Truly despicable. Seeding to at least 1 to 1 is the bare minimum of courtesy and humanity. If you dont, its unethical
Seeding shouldn’t be done on ratios - being the only one seeding 10 seasons of a tv show and getting it to 0.4:1 is way more helpful than seeding the same movie as everyone else and getting to 20:1, you’re noy contributing anything there other than decreasing your bandwidth for things that aren’t already at 100,000% availability
I’d you are the only one seeding it and get to 0.4, you just left others hanging with incomplete downloads.
However I do agree in general
That’s what I’m saying
It’s better to not even half-way seed a torrent with low availability than it is to seed one that everyone else is seeding, regardless of how high your ratio goes - it’s a point on how pointless it really is to waste your resources seeding something like that
The lazy approach is the best approach IMO. Seed everything, and if the ratio gets high, drop it. That way you get rid of useless popular torrents and keep the less popular ones. If everyone does that, things will work better.
Hey now some of us just have wildly shit upload speeds and couldn’t hope to reach 1:1 without spending an entire year seeding a single movie.
That’s a big part of why I stick with my ISP. My download speeds aren’t super competitive for the price, but my upload is half my download, which is nice.
Yeah, I always went for 2:1. It doesn’t really cost me anything, so why not?
Another example of Republican principles. Corporations are protected by laws but not bound by them, while the average citizen is bound by laws but not protected by them.
What does this have to do with the Republican party? The other party upholds the same copyright law.
So where’s the MAFIAA? Here you go guys, literal industrial scale piracy.
Or are you afraid to go after someone that isn’t a teenager in their parent’s back room?
Fighting Meta will cost easy more money than fighting a teenager.
I am aware. I was simply demonstrating they were never about money, simply bullying people who couldn’t fight back.
Especially since in the height of my pirating years during teenagerdom, no amount of cajoling or coercion could get me to pay for whatever it was because I didn’t have any money. Which not at all coincidentally was why I was pirating it in the first place.
These dweebs always operate from the frankly invalid preconception that if the pirate had not pirated the media they would have paid for it and therefore they’re “owed” a sale, but that’s not how it works. I imagine that if the vast majority of people were unable to pirate their thing, they simply would not watch/listen/read/play/consume the thing at all.
The real shit deal is if there was a ruling against Meta in this, it would still be worse for everyone because there would be precedent to litigate against people who only consume pirated content (which has been tried in several countries and found to be legal)
…Oh god…
you described a situation where i want Meta to win…
This is irrelevant because Meta should not be tried for this the same as a private individual would be.
The case for torrenting being illegal for private individuals is one or both of:
- Downloading in of itself is stealing.
- Uploading is giving unauthorized access to someone else who otherwise might have had a harder time finding it. Anything else, such as watching, reading, listening, learning, etc. is not illegal (or does not make sense to make illegal). The exception might be publishing. This is rare for private individuals (e.g. using pirated FL studio to make a commercial song).
For corporations, a lot change. Firstly, a corporation downloading a torrent is necessarily making unauthorized material available for some people of the company. It’s like a group of 20 friends all downloaded and uploaded to each other. Secondly, they used this copyrighted material commercially (like playing pirated music in a public night club). Both should be illegal.
However, all of this is still a distraction. The real issue is using copyrighted materials to train commercial AI. Does Meta require permission from copyright holders to make AI based on their work? The law is grey on this, and desperately needs regulations.
Just my thoughts.
AI has already stolen everyone’s work. The internet is officially a free for all.
Of course that fuck isn’t a good seeder. Leech.
Also I love how they they don’t say they didn’t seed, just say there is no proof
This is a motion to dismiss not an answer. That’s how those work. It is linked to by the journalist in the article.
It’s not illegal to download books without yourself offering them for upload. What’s illegal is when you feed those books into your reality devouring content monster and it outputs all that copyrighted content in a slightly different order and you profit off that content vomit.
Well, at least they released llama for free, But honestly, their hypocrisy is so pathetic.
Hey, who knows? Maybe now they’re gonna like start funding legal defense funds for people torrenting. Part of their whole corporate social responsibility, If they feel so strongly about it… right? /s
Let’s just make legal the evil we do…
At the very least they’ll create a legal precedent.
They’ll just settle if the case isn’t going their way.
So it’s okay if we download content from well known online repositories?
You wouldn’t download car…and then upload its stats to a centralised system
My class action Spidey sense is tingling
Double Standard!
Rules for thee and not for me, plus we PROFIT off of it to boot. But none of you guys can do that. Only for Richys.
Well good news if they are successful in their arguments it can set precedent to make piracy legal.
That’s what I’m saying. Let the Zuck cook.
