Summary
Alternative for Germany (AfD), a far-right party founded in 2013, is poised for its strongest national election result yet in Germany.
Initially focused on eurozone bailouts, AfD shifted its focus to migration, gaining significant support and entering parliament in 2017.
The party, now advocating for large-scale deportations and opposing support for Ukraine, has become a significant political force, particularly in eastern Germany, and is under observation for suspected right-wing extremism.
This hits extra hard given Tim Allen’s MAGAness.
To those saying Germany is experiencing the same dynamic that lead to the anti-democratic government takeover in the US: Hold your horses.
- AfD is polling at ~20%. That’s objectively very bad, however, 80% of voters support democratic parties. US fascists won a majority of voters - we‘re far from that.
- AfD is isolated in the parliament - other parties ignored their existence in the parliament for the entirety of this parliament‘s turn. They simply refuse to work with AfD. This means that every vote for AfD becomes meaningless the day after the election.
- For weeks, there have been millions in the streets all over Germany, demonstrating against AfD and fascist movements. That’s happening despite Germany going through a recession for the third year in a row - we’re experiencing the worst economic crisis in decades.
There are way more differences than that, but I’ll stop here. We’re far from what’s happening in the US. The trend is concerning though, and if the economic crisis continues, together with soaring inequality and the creation of an oligarch class of the super-rich, we might be in a bad spot in a decade or so.
There’s also the small issue of “history doesn’t repeat, but it often rhymes”.
The rest of the world watching the US be an extra dysfunctional mess for the last forty years and finally blow its own legs off: “well, okay, but they said it’ll be different for us”
Oh, so far we’ve got one European or Canadian downcoping and telling themselves “but it really will be different for us”.
Fuck around and find out, bud. Hope you don’t enjoy your social programs.
Maple millhouse will be so fucking bad for canada
O good, it’s not just us in the US
Canada also has a bunch of far right assholes who’re currently leading in our polls. Luckily the US clusterfuck is making Canadians think twice about voting for them though and they’re dropping in the polls
Quick edit: it’s hilarious because they have to court both the moderate conservatives who hate Trump and the far right who idolise him and they’re fumbling both
How does that even sound ? How would you defend and attack him at once?
Wait…why would that be good?
The entire world including lots of Europe has been shifting significantly right despite what leftist US haters often say about the US left being a European right. That hasn’t been true for a decade or more.
First, I find it kind of irritating when someone attributes opinions to an undefined “they”. Was this a thing Bernie Sanders said? Was this something started in a press release by the DSA? If you’re talking about Twitter, might as well say ‘I heard from the propaganda machine…’
I’m left as heck, and I’m very aware that countries are moving right all over the world. It seems to be especially driven by migration. And I think folks need an affirmative message besides either ‘we’re ignoring your concerns and letting folks in’ or ‘fine, we’ll lock the gates and kill the migrants. Please like us.’
Regarding important economic issues such as healthcare, welfare, taxes, consumer protection & industry regulation this is certainly the case.
The part where the European right mainly differs from the US left is on more recent additions to leftist ideology - such as identity politics & intersectionalism.
Misery loves company
If it happened to us it will happen to you. Guaranteed. Maybe now everyone will get off their high horse and help us figure this shit out so we will be alive to help you figure it out.
Happened to us in 1933 already. Question is if we manage to remember what that lead us into. Will people make the same mistake twice?
I think there’s an easy solution. Left wing parties should start tackling the problem of immigration, because yes, it’s a problem and the sooner we realize it, the sooner we can stop extreme right wing parties from using that as a lever to come into power.
Or wait check this out: they promise to fix housing and solve things people want.
iTsThE IMMIGRANTS fAuLt!!
My man, if you knew how much of the economy was based on immigrant work you’d tout another tune.
I didn’t say we should stop immigration. But everybody can see that some immigrants don’t come to Europe to work, not at all. And people are angry about that; left wing parties should tackle that problem in a rational way. Otherwise people get fed up and then they resort to vote for extreme right wing parties.
Oh no only 99.7% of immigrants come here to work! Let’s kick them all out!
Shouldn’t we kick out any people if they don’t want to work with that logic? I hope you’re having a job!
Smh
With the recent mass murder by immigrants, no wonder.
What ‘mass murder’? There were some attacks, but no ‘mass murder’.
German prosecutors on Sunday released the name of the 26-year-old Syrian man suspected of a multiple stabbing attack in the western city of Solingen that killed three people and injured eight others.
On 20 December 2024, an SUV was driven into a crowd at the Christmas market in Magdeburg, Germany, killing 6 people and injuring at least 299 others. The driver of the car, allegedly 50-year-old anti-Islam activist Taleb Al-Abdulmohsen, was arrested at the scene.
There was just days ago an attempt at mass murder that injured 30. This sort of shit obviously gets people worried and reacting out of that fear and worry
E: A mother and child in the München attack have just died today and an hour ago there was a knife attack in Austria
A 14-year-old boy has died and four people have been wounded in a knife attack in Austria.
The suspect is a 23-year-old Syrian asylum seeker and has been detained, AFP news agency reported citing a police official.
Fucking hell.
I didn’t remember that many victims at the Christmas one. I grant you that. But to go right to the Nazi party cause of some irrational fears and worries, is not understandable.
People aren’t entirely rational when they’re afraid. Hell, people are not entirely rational on best of days. And I don’t think they feel like other parties have done enough. A lot of people do, it’s still a minority that are looking for AfD but if these things keep happening and other parties don’t react strongly enough, we know what becomes of that.
There’s been a new sad development. Two of the people in the München car attack died, a mother and a child. And now just hours ago there’s been a knife attack by a Syrian asylum seeker where at least one person has died.
I’m still waiting for the Bavarian minister of the interior to resign over those repeated specifically Bavarian failures.
Hell yeah
Every time someone pointed out problems caused by migrants, legal and illegal, they got downvoted. Now I’m sure that the left and those infected by the woke virus really hate their country. No one in their right mind would ignore damages done to their own country.
Every time someone pointed out they hate groups of people, in arbitrary subcategories, they got downvoted.
There, I fixed that for you.
Every time someone pointed out the truth, they got downvoted.
Nah. This version is more precise and concise.
Every time people try to blame immigrants for problems they don’t cause they get downvoted.
Fixed that for you.
That’s the woke virus talking through you. How blind can people be?
Wow, now that’s an argument. The woke virus… Are you a conspirationist?
The bastard even smiled after stabbing a girl. You know what nationality he is? People like you are the one enabling the crimes perpetuated by those people.
Yes let’s bag all people from that country together because of one douchebag.
Where are you from, so that I can mark everyone from that country as racists?
You’re the only one here who’s saying that all people from that country do that.
no u
" I don’t have any valid claims to make or evidenced arguments to cite, so I’m just gonna say ‘woke virus’ a few times to dismiss everyone else’s position. I’m so edgy and smart."
Check the picture i shared somewhere here. You blind bastard.
Imagine acting like white American citizens don’t do things that horrible or so.much worse literally every fucking day. This is nothing but racist propaganda by a braindead parrot taught only enough to repeat the words his master trained him on. If that wasn’t an illegal immigrant, you never would have heard her name unless you lived in that specific local community, because mental illness and human atrocities are everywhere and immigration has nothing to do with the incident.
Really, where? Be honest, we don’t see that kind of news every day. Because it’s not real. You just made that up.
There were 52.7 homicides every day in the US in 2023, most committed by US citizens. As a follower of true crime podcasts, I assure you, every week there’s a new twisted, horrific murder straight out of a horror movie. Again, the vast majority of which are by US citizens. Pretending violence is an immigration issue an not a human issue is, at best, woefully ignorant, or worst, deliberately xenophobic and harmful.
