Summary
Donald Trump stated that Palestinians displaced by Israel’s military actions would not have a right to return to Gaza under his plan.
Instead, he proposed resettling them in Egypt and Jordan, despite both nations rejecting the idea.
Trump suggested creating permanent refugee communities funded by the U.S., calling Gaza a “real estate development for the future.”
His proposal has drawn condemnation from Arab nations and legal experts, with the UN warning it could constitute ethnic cleansing and violate international law.
Israel’s far-right settlers welcomed the plan.
Biden’s Gaza policy was tragic, but still, fuck anyone that voted to throw gas onto that fire.
Guy behind the Muslim ban, with the Christian nationalist base, was always going to make things worse.
What gas? Biden tried to do ethnic cleansing as well. Biden tried pushing Egypt to accept Israels ethnic cleansing plan behind closed doors and push the Palestinians out of Rafah. Egypt refused.
Biden helped Israel cleanse the West Bank. Do you believe they have right to return over there?
Trumps difference is he is saying the quiet part out loud. And all it does is piss off Egypt and Saudi.
You’re getting downvoted but nothing you said is incorrect.
McCarthyism never ended lol
The Russian Federation is a threat to Europe and the USA.
https://2021-2025.state.gov/russias-pillars-of-disinformation-and-propaganda-report/
Did you unironically send us to a US .gov propaganda website to get information about a US enemy state’s disinformation?
Al Jazeera is funded in whole or in part by the Qatari government. Wikipedia
Al Jazeera is heavily influenced by the Qatari government. The same government that has the death sentence for apostasy and homosexuality.
Edit: Also Al Jazeera spun the mass-murder Yahya ‘bring back suicide bombers’ Sinwar as some honorable martyr.
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I reported your comment and it still up. Apparently lemmy.world mods apparently do not remove insults when they defend genocide.
So predictable. Nothing but “whataboutism” anytime someone points out how bad Trump is and will be. This thread was about Trump, not Biden.
Stop making it about Biden then.
It is currently removed on my end.
Was up for more than 6 hours.
You can’t reason with the pro-genocide Kamala voters
Oh fuck I didn’t realize there was a magical third candidate with a prospect of winning
Yeah, it’s those thoughts and prayers people keep sending in light of disaster. It’s great, you get to claim the moral high ground while burying your head in the sand about the realities of the situation.
I hope you look forward to voting for Ted Cruz, the Democratic candidate for president in 2028. After all, he’ll in theory be a little better than Trump running for his third term, so logically it’s our duty to support Mr. Cruz for president. The only criteria any Democrat is allowed to use is whether the Democratic candidate is a tiny bit better than the Republican.
If you refuse to vote for President Cruz, you will be fully morally responsible for any of Trump’s actions in his third term. After all, there’s no magical third candidate with a prospect of winning.
This is the moral hazard of the “vote blue no matter who” crowd. If the Democratic base is already locked in no matter what, then there’s no need for the party to work to actually reflect Democratic values. The people running the party only care about winning for the sake of winning. They don’t actually believe in anything; they’re just shameless power chasers. And if the Dem base will vote for literally anyone the Dems nominate, then Dems might as well just nominate Ted Cruz, Liz Cheney, or some other Republican. What better way to appeal to suburban Republican voters than by nominating an actual Republican?
The truth is that in order for the Democratic Party to actually mean anything, there have to be some people on the left side of the spectrum willing to walk away if the party moves too far to the right. If there’s no consequence to drifting to the right, the party will just become a duplicate of the Republican Party. Eventually we’ll just end up with an election between the KKK candidate and the skinhead candidate. That would literally be the outcome if every Democratic voter blindly “voted blue no matter who.”
Obviously, there’s the argument of voting to defend democracy. But the sad truth is that centrist dems have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are actually incapable of defending democracy. You can’t run on something that you’ve proven yourself utterly incapable of doing. The party that appointed Merrick Garland could not credibly argue that they were going to vigorously defend democracy. Even now, their pathetic response to Trump’s lawlessness shows that they are incapable of fighting for democracy.
I mean I agree with some of your points I just would have waited until trump was dead of old age before trying to do a protest vote but hey different strokes for different folks I guess. at least we wont have to talk about gaza anymore since it will be fucking gone haha 👍
You keep saying:
at least we wont have to talk about gaza anymore since it will be fucking gone haha 👍
Like Trumps plan is different from Bidens.
But it isn’t. Biden literally tried to get Egypt to accept a giant tent city refuge camp in the Sinai desert. You know, like Gaza originally was in the first place?
So, laughing at the people you incorrectly blame for Trumps election and pointing at this as a consequence is just stupid. This was literally Bidens plan as well.
I don’t blame y’all for shit dawg this is all on the fucking DNC, and I ain’t laughing at you im laughing as cope.
But to act like it would have been exactly the same under Biden is a fucking joke, you know trump is gunna dial the spite and cruelty to 11.
Dudes gonna single handedly start WW3
his handler in moscow deserves some credit
Trump is the handler in this case. Handling Putin’s balls.
Not even gonna try to pretend it isn’t ethnic cleansing…
People can weasel themselves around terms like “fascist” quite easily, because there are multiple definitions, many are very diffuse and there’s a lot of disagreement around it - but ethnic cleansing to my understanding is quite simple and this is it. Can any serious political commentator pretend it’s not? For example the forced removal of Poles from west Poland (annexed by USSR) after WW2 for example was not a slaughter, but is considered an act of ethnic cleansing.
I think this is something else – I mean, he’s gonna need slaves to implement all this.
People immigrating to the US? Criminal invaders. The biggest threat to America. Meanwhile, let’s turn an entry country into refugees and forcibly relocate them into other countries without the consent of anyone involved. Makes perfect sense. /s
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Member when people were saying Kamala would be worse than Trump for Palestinians, LOL! How’s that vote/abstain working out now?
They probably think it worked out great, since it was only ever an op by hostile elements to convince absolute fucking idiots to vote against their own interests.
Remember when Democrats pleaded with Harris to differentiate herself from Biden and Trump on the issue and she refused?
me downvote instead of argue 🤓
Yeah. It’s pretty ridiculous. The DNC decided it’s voters were wrong and got the election result that usually gets in a country with elections every 2 years specifically to ensure politicians are responsive to voters.
But nope, it’s the voter’s fault.
The sheer audacity of treating sovereign territories like Monopoly properties reveals the bankruptcy of modern geopolitics. Trump’s alleged “Gaza swap” proposal – offering Egypt debt relief for absorbing a war-torn enclave – reeks of casino diplomacy where human lives become bargaining chips. This isn’t statecraft, it’s a foreclosure auction on human dignity.
Egypt’s immediate rejection proves even authoritarian regimes recognize some lines shouldn’t be crossed. But the real tragedy lies in normalizing this billionaire’s mentality that every crisis is a leveraged buyout opportunity. From the Abraham Accords to this Gaza garage sale, it’s all about transactional trophy deals while ignoring root causes.
The Mediterranean doesn’t need another real estate mogul playing Risk with refugee camps. This isn’t solving conflict – it’s outsourcing oppression through financial blackmail. The message is clear: human rights have become adjustable-rate mortgages in the hands of dealmakers.
Friendly reminder: The crescendo of the first six months of project 2025 is using civil unrest to deploy the US Military as a domestic police force. The accompanying suspension of habeus corpus is absolutely needed for them to turn up the heat even more.
They’re laying the groundwork for defanging the judicial branch as we speak - it’s their last obstacle.
From https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/articles/article-i/clauses/763 (emphasis mine):
"The Suspension Clause protects liberty by protecting the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus. It provides that the federal government may not suspend this privilege except in extraordinary circumstances: when a rebellion or invasion occurs and the public safety requires it. "
Long story short, when people are hungry and broke and without a place to live, they become desperate, but then when you do something that really makes them angry. They stop being desperate and they start becoming violent. Not just people in the Middle East mind you I’m talking all people from British colonists to French students yelling about revolution all the way down to Germans, who survived the World War I only to see part of their country, giving away the treaty of Versailles. 
 Donald Trump‘s plan is just asking for further acts of terrorism against America and our interest overseas
I feel sorry for any service member who is killed because Donald Trump wants to build another hotel that will inevitably go bankrupt 
Lmao. Enjoy Dearborn, Michigan. When he kicks you out, you can join them in limbo.
This was literally Bidens plan as well.
You can have fun laughing at people that didn’t want to vote for someone directly responsible for killing their families (as if you’d be different at all), but don’t do it because you think this is something worse that Trump is doing that Biden wouldn’t.
Provide any source for your claim. Never did Biden state anything like this.
Biden didn’t state anything. That was his thing. Not giving interviews. With his administration it wasn’t what he said, it’s what his administration did.
And yes, Anthony Blinken flew all over the middle east trying to get this proposal through. I’m sorry you like to post opinions on something you apparently have no knowledge of.
https://newlinesmag.com/reportage/middle-east-reels-a-new-option-takes-shape-expulsion/
What’s the end goal here, cause another 9/11 so he can declare martial law?
I said something similar a few months before he got into office, got down voted to hell.
A gift to Netanyahu for intentionally delaying the ceasefire until after the election to help Trump win.
Probably say “I gave them a chance, now we need to exterminate, since we have no other options”
Aaaaand, why is the president of the US making plans for the people in a county he has no authority over again?
No better than Putin, you could say. Both are real dickbags and need to be put down like animals.
"I’M PROTEST VOTING. " - Dumb Bastards
The real lesson of trump: you can get away with anything after you’ve conditioned your victims enough.
I read recently that all conservatism is is “I’m a good person and anyone who says otherwise deserved whatever I did to them.”
Pretty sure this is how it all started in the 1930s.
Hey CNN, wanna interview those protest voters again?
Do you respect Palestinians or not?
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I voted for Harris, but I also recognize the great value of people refusing to vote for a Democratic candidate when they move too far to the right. If there is no consequence for drifting right, the candidates will continue to do so.
The whole “preserve democracy” thing sounds good if you don’t think about it too hard, but it doesn’t hold up to scrutiny. The Biden/Harris team proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that they weren’t capable of defending democracy. Nominating Garland proved that. The dems pathetic response to Trump’s current lawlessness has proven that.
You can’t “defend democracy” just by saying the words “defend democracy.” You actually have to do it. And they proved that they were either unwilling or incapable of actually defending democracy. That’s why that talking point so fell flat.
But the Palestinian people didn’t vote for Kamala. That is like saying, us sophisticated Kamala genocide fans are smarter than you Palestinians & know what is best for you. So I ask again why do you not respect the Palestinians & what they wanted?
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The Palestinian people who are not US citizens do not get a vote at all.
Here you assume that there are no Palestinian Americans, very racist.
Those that are US citizens chose to throw away their vote so they’re in the same camp as those who are not US citizens.
Here you claim that Palestinians that didn’t vote for Kamala are US citizens, but you don’t consider them to be US citizens… more racism.
Palestinian people who were US citizens chose the worse of the two options
Here you claim that Palestinians don’t know what is best for them, which is more racism.
the Palestinian people who were not US citizens had a vote here
More racism by you attempting to claim that there aren’t Palestinian Americans.
They do not have enough power, militaristicly speaking, to have autonomy over their own region, and are unfortunately at the mercy of Israel and their close allies (e.g. the USA right now), to control their fate/future.
Weird how you could have voted for someone else that didn’t support genocide & unconditional support of Israel, which would have given them more autonomy but you chose not to.
Palestinian Americans and allies who could have voted and chosen a less evil/less terrible path ahead, and they flubbed things in the name of making a point
Weird how you claim to always know what is best for them. Just like the white man always knows what is best for African Americans. Very racist of you.
The Palestinian people who are not US citizens do not get a vote at all.
Here you assume that there are no Palestinian Americans, very racist.
This is an illogical misinterpretation. Consider a Venn diagram of Palestinians and US Citizens. The intersection is obviously not the empty set. That initial sentence you quoted is describing the set of Palestinians minus said intersection. You even betray your misinterpretation by quoting “Palestinian people who were US citizens” between accusations of racism.
Much of the rest of your comment similarly falls apart from this illogical misinterpretation.
You are trying to explain why you think it is okay for you to be racist.
Of course he does not. Every American president has always voted against Palestinian self-determination at the UN.
But how can we blame and isolate Palestinian/Muslium/Arab voters if we dont pretend that what Trump saying is something new? /s
