• Mister Neon
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    1643 months ago

    I know tipping culture is extreme, but I’ve never seen 100%. I don’t think this is real.

    • .Donuts
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      933 months ago

      I can’t find the original image, it’s just been reshared dozens of times on Xitter, Threads, Facebook and Reddit, but nobody is adding context or naming and shaming.

      So yeah, probably just ragebait.

        • .Donuts
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          13 months ago

          I reverse image searched on mobile to try find the origin / source of this specific image to see if it was legit.

          I wasn’t excluding the possibility of some company in the world prompting for a 100% tip, hence why I didn’t spend 10 seconds googling for it.

      • M137
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        -43 months ago

        What… “I’ve never seen the least of those until a decade ago”. It’s such a weird comment, like if someone said they got their first EV and you reply with “I never had a vehicle at all until 25 years ago.” See how incredibly odd that is? It’s got major “I like turtles” feel, even though it’s on topic.

    • @vincenttwice@lemmy.world
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      43 months ago

      I have seen similar suggestion levels including 100% in Vegas, Seattle, and other large metro areas.

      If I saw a 30% option described by the establishment as “soso”, I would strongly consider stepping away “to the bathroom” forever.

  • Elsie
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    1133 months ago

    If any place said a 30% tip is so so, I’m not tipping.

      • @YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world
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        13 months ago

        If you said “$.02 (point oh two) and a bad online review” it would’ve had an extra layer and sounded cooler while rhyming.

        • @finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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          13 months ago

          Yes but it would undercut how absolutely dead serious I was about it.

          My main issue isn’t even the amounts but the labels. The recipient might think $30 is SoSo but it might be everything the giver has. It might also just be a pathetic pittance to the giver.

    • Flying Squid
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      153 months ago

      Maybe it’s your job to avoid patronizing places that don’t pay their employees enough though?

        • Flying Squid
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          -13 months ago

          If you keep patronizing such businesses, why would they ever do that? They know they don’t have to in order to get your money. And it is the same with your own near-minimum wage job. You are working against your own best interests. Nothing will change while people are willing to give their money to companies that don’t pay their workers a fair wage.

            • Flying Squid
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              23 months ago

              Right,so don’t use those businesses. You give them no reason to do anything differently.

              All you are doing is helping to maintain the status quo.

              • Victor
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                You don’t get it, I think? The point is to get the workers to quit or protest because they don’t get paid enough, so that the place can increase the prices instead so they can pay their workers. If the place is still providing a nice service or good food or whatever it may be, you don’t want it to go out of business. Just make a worker-positive change.

                • Flying Squid
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                  53 months ago

                  It takes everyone to fix these issues. It is not a one-sided job. Every time you give these establishments money, you help them.

                  And there is no shortage of replacement waiters out there for the ones who quit.

                • @Demdaru@lemmy.world
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                  33 months ago

                  Most people won’t quit, especially in the US from what I know. If they are already underpaid, how can they quit? And if pretty much every place treats waiters the same, what choice do they have?

  • @Freefall@lemmy.world
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    10-15% IF you went above and beyond or performed particularly well. It’s a tip, I am not your employer. I used to be a huge tipper until I realized just how fucked that whole system is. Also, NEVER PRE-TIP. That is insane!

    • @BakerBagel@midwest.social
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      -833 months ago

      Complain all you want, but not tipping is straight up taking money from someone who is getting paid $5 an hour. Complain to ownership, write your congressman and state legislators, but not tipping only punishes someone who is barely scrapping by.

      • @SoJB@lemmy.ml
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        So, dear reader, notice how whenever defenders of tipping come along, it’s always the same story.

        Oh boohoo my poor minimum wage (which is pegged to the same minimum wage as non-tipped workers in states where most people live).

        Ever wonder why it’s always about the minimum wage and never about how much money they make?

        Any server with 2 brain cells clears $40 an hour in untaxed cash wages every shift.

        They never report it on their taxes, and yet they will cry about their poor wittle wage at every opportunity expecting people that make half their salary to tip them 100% for rudely dropping off a plate once and never coming back, making you wait 20 minutes to close a check.

        Notice the pattern. Remember how I was right next time.

        Ask them if they’d rather abolish tipping next time. Notice how none of them say “yes”.

          • wia
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            113 months ago

            It will when servers refuse to work those jobs

          • @mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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            53 months ago

            Yeah, if you want to act your conscience be my guest, don’t patronize the restaurant that does this. Don’t eat their food then stiff the server.

          • @dingus@lemmy.world
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            13 months ago

            Sorry you’re getting downvoted. The internet doesn’t understand how to solve problems and would instead like for individual people who have no power in this to be shafted. In an ideal world, what people are saying to you would work. This isn’t an ideal world.

      • @michaelmrose@lemmy.world
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        273 months ago

        Also tipping is for actual table service. If you just hand me some food I’m not tipping you for handing me food.

        • @Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
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          93 months ago

          I recently ordered some parts for an e-vape online. At the payment page it asked for a tip. I was in disbelief. (I didn’t take a screenshot, but in retrospect I should have.)

          No services rendered, no food being made, nobody personally delivering it to my house. But it still wanted a tip, with the explanation that it was “to support our team!”

          Where to even begin…

      • @RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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        93 months ago

        I’m tired of this excuse. These people took the job knowing what the pay rate was, and are demanding the customer pay their salary directly rather than the employer like virtually any other conventional job does. Customers have had it, they’re being told to give employees raises along with rising food costs, even at businesses that don’t do a damn thing for the customer except maybe hand them a to-go box. 20% for that? F no. Grow a spine and demand real pay, people have had it. IDK how I can travel almost any modern place else in the world, pay for a good meal, and only have to leave the approximation of $1 or so for appreciation of the service, but in America I pay for the food and a separate charge for the employee’s “pay”.

        • @BakerBagel@midwest.social
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          Thrn stop going to restaurants that expect a tip. Don’t go to a restaurant and stiff your server. I spent 6 months last year living on $300 a week because people weren’t tipping at the bar i was working at. The bar is still open, but the new bartender is in the exact same position.

          You don’t take a job at a restaurant or a bar because your life is doing great. You are there because you have no other options.

          • @RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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            33 months ago

            I don’t have a problem with tipping. I have a problem with restauranteurs taking the profits and the customer being asked for more and more tips. I can’t help people’s life situations, and I’m sure they aren’t all down on their luck any more than someone working retail. Yeah, I avoid places that expect big tips, so the servers get no tip at all instead of some tip.

          • @michaelmrose@lemmy.world
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            13 months ago

            This is the case in several states amounting in total to 60M people. For states where another 70M live the tip credit exists but is smaller than the federal number. Many also have a higher minimum as well. For 130 million people the prior statement is inapt.

      • @beastlykings@sh.itjust.works
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        63 months ago

        Those same people only getting paid 5 an hour have literally fought and complained against any attempts to change the law and bring a proper wage. Why? Because they make more in tips than they would hourly. Whole system is messed up.

      • @Nindelofocho@lemmy.world
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        23 months ago

        Its unfortunately a catch 22 though because continuing to tip kinda enables it to keep happening if everyone stopped tipping then places would likely have to pay a decent wage in order to get people to work as even if you’re extremely desperate for money its still not really worth it to work for tipped minimum wage with no tips also im not sure if it applies to all places but if your compensation + tips falls below the federal minimim wage the company must pay you the difference if I am not mistaken

        • @BakerBagel@midwest.social
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          13 months ago

          That’s over the course of a pay period though. So if i make $40 on a slow night, but $200 the next night, that evens out and the boss doesn’t have to pay out.

          I am not defending tipping, but change will only happen from the top down. All the full time servers at the restaurant i work at are at “i cant pay my bills” level of struggling right now and we live in a super cheap area. Stiffing your server won’t end tipping, it’s just taking a meal away from them or their kids while the owner is just fine. Legislation is the only thing that will end the system, qnd that’s where the reform needs to happen.

        • @BakerBagel@midwest.social
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          Servers usually have to pay in X% of their total sales to the back of house. So if you stiff me on a $90 check, i lose $3 because i still have to pay that much in. I actually had a slow night where bith tables stiffed me so i actually left the restaurant $4 poorer than when i entered. Because ihad a better night the next shift, the owner was able to average me out so that he didn’t have to pay me more than the server minimum wage.

  • Phoenixz
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    603 months ago

    This would be an automatic “custom” > 0% for me. Sorry, not sorry.

  • zkfcfbzr
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    483 months ago

    Back when 15% was considered standard I liked tipping closer to 30%, but as a direct result of the push to try to make 15% seem low I no longer tip more than 15%.

    • @BakerBagel@midwest.social
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      -143 months ago

      All you are doing is punishing some poor server who has no control of the price. The owner who is actually fucking both you and the staff over is unaffected.

      • zkfcfbzr
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        163 months ago

        I’m punishing them by giving them what was until 10 years ago considered an excellent and standard tip?

        Not to mention that servers are, as a general group, extremely opposed to dismantling the tip system as a whole. My complaint wasn’t about raised food prices, which the owner would be in control of - it was about raised tipping percentage expectations. I refuse to contribute to the steadily rising expectation of how much a tip should be, and regret my past contributions to that trend.

        • @BakerBagel@midwest.social
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          Rent has gone up a lot more than 15% in the past decade. The whole system is rotten and needs to be abolished, but all the servers i know are absolutely struggling right now and depend on getting a 20% tip on each table. How would you feel if half your paychecks were randomly 25% less? Stop going to restaurants that expect a tip by all means, but if you are going somewhere that expects it, you should tip.

          • zkfcfbzr
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            83 months ago

            15 is the percent of the tip, not the percent increase in tip income over the last decade. If the tip percentage stays constant, then the tip amount rises in direct proportion to the food cost. The fair comparison is rent increase vs. restaurant food price increase. The data I found indicates rent’s gone up at an average of 4% per year in the last decade, and that restaurant food prices have risen by a similar amount - anywhere from 3-7% depending on the industry.

            Everyone is struggling. It is not unique to servers. And I do tip - just a reasonable 15%. If a server is struggling to get by on 15% tips, they should harass their boss and their senator, not their customers who are likely struggling as well.

      • @BradleyUffner@lemmy.world
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        43 months ago

        Don’t pretend they have no control. They could band together and refuse to play by the restaurant’s rules. Things would change pretty quickly.

        • @BakerBagel@midwest.social
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          So could you and your coworkers, but restaurant owners are the sleazist, scummiest, and greediest business owners in your community guaranteed. A restaurant in my town had the entire staff fired and the restaurant closed for a month because the owner would rather miss out on a month of business than pay a fair wage.

  • Steve Dice
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    453 months ago

    Select “Custom” and type 0.00 without breaking eye contact. Be careful, though, that 0.00 can quickly turn into 8.88 if you’re not looking.

      • Steve Dice
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        63 months ago

        Yeah, it’s definitely the owner’s fault. That doesn’t change the fact that the underpaid schmuck always tries to blame the customer for not leaving a tip.

    • kamen
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      23 months ago

      That means the tip goes to the customer, right?

      /s

  • Redex
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    213 months ago

    This would get an immediate Custom -> 0% from me the moment I see it.

    Fucking “soso” for a 20% tip the hell

    • @boonhet@lemm.ee
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      Man I’d leave a 1% tip just in case someone sees it and realizes that it was on purpose because I’m annoyed with the UX

      Also, holy hell, am I glad to live in a country that doesn’t do tipping*. It was a bit weird going to the US and not knowing when to tip and when not to, but I doubt I’ll be revisiting y’all in the next 4 years anyway :(

      *At restaurants with table service, it’s considered polite, but not necessary, to tip, if you enjoyed the experience.

  • @rosco385@lemm.ee
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    173 months ago

    It doesn’t have to be like this, America. Not only is tipping not expected in Australia, but when the “Choose tip” screen comes up on US made software, all the servers I’ve ever had skip straight through it and choose zero.

    Servers deserve to be paid fairly.