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When an artificer and a rouge are faced with the same problem.
Edit: my english sucks
What does makeup have to do with this?
Rogue is not spelled rouge.
I think you replied to the wrong person. They know.
DM: Roll a D20 for a stealth check.
Rouge: I bat my eyelashes.
DM: Huh, I misread your character sheet. I’ll allow it.*eyeliner
I simply pulled the knob off in the store & shoved the rest of the stove up my butt, later at home I printed the missing knob. It’s a simple life-hack, basically everyone is doing it.
Wes Watson over here.
Still cheaper than getting a 3D printer and filament and stuff. And CAD/CAM software.
It’s true that you should not expect to save money in the short or long run with 3d printing as a hobby, but if it’s your thing then it’s nice to have a hobby that’s occasionally useful. Also, autodesk fusion is free for consumer use.
Software is free if you aren’t using it for commercial use. Fusion 360, onshape, etc. are all free for personal use. And that’s assuming someone didn’t make it already and share it free.
Filament costs $17 for 1kg of perfectly fine plastic. You’d probably use 100g at most for this, so $1.70.
A Bambu A1 mini is $200, and is a modern, high quality printer that would be fine for this project.
So you only need like a half dozen of these projects to come out ahead.
On software SIDE, kinda criminal not to mention FreeCAD, it’s FOSS and runs on Linux, unlike the non-free freemium and paid alternatives
But it’s got a long way to go before it’s at usable as the others. Definitely not a good place to start learning cad.
Nah it’s a great place to start learning, it’s super easy to start modelling your first simple models in part design.
It’s the more complex designs where it starts to struggle (or maybe I’m just bad idk)
Nah it’s not you, FreeCAD is perfectly usable for something like the above referenced knob but even mid-size assemblies really have problems. I personally find the workflow to be bad and irritating beyond my ability to express in words and I can’t imagine how frustrating it would be as a new user to work it out for yourself while at the same time getting used to thinking of objects as collections of operations. It’s a great lightweight program for people who already know what they’re doing and that value FOSS, though. 1.0 really fixed a ton of the issues, but it still has the “Blender UX” problem that seems to plague all big FOSS projects…
No, it doesn’t.
The recent 1.0 release is actually very good. It is probably better at this point than some of the entry level commercial options and most importantly compared to those is not intentionally hobbled in any way.
The time for everyone to stop parroting how “everyone knows” that FreeCAD is unusable is… now. You can go ahead and delete that one; it’s time to learn a new soundbyte.
Is it much different from 7 months ago?
Yes. The 1.0 release was in November. That Ondsel fork in your video was based on, I believe, the 0.22 version.
The 1.0 release actually prompted Ondsel to shut down entirely, as they are now largely redundant and attempting to monetize a FOSS program was probably doomed from the start anyway…
That’s good to know, I guess I’ll give it a try again.
To be clear, I’m the last one to say one shouldn’t invest in money saving innovation. But the breaking even should be number one priority. I, for instance have all kinds of energy savers in my house that have cost me several hundreds. They’ll only be returned in a few years and I need to manage them properly.
If you do not have a 3D printer and CAD software, you are 100% right.
If you already have those things like OP, then why not just design / print one? I am also a 3D printer / CAD person, and I love designing replacement parts that are wither too expensive, or often impossible to find. Mostly though, I design and print things that make my and my families lives easier / nicer / more convenient. And they are customized to the exact item and function, something that you would most likely never be able to get in a store or online.
Stove Knob guards. https://www.printables.com/model/278668-stove-knob-guard
Salt / Pepper Grinder Holder. https://www.printables.com/model/155219-salt-and-pepper-grinder-caddy
Spice Jar Organizer. https://www.printables.com/model/151171-spice-jar-spacer-organizer
Just to name a few things.
That’s a humongous oven, must be a 10+ person household.
Or its the house people designated as the holiday house, maybe! Only actually used fully a few times a year.
That’s my house. We have dual ovens and use them simultaneously several times a year, mostly holidays.
90cm.
We have one for our 4 adult, 2 kid household. Its amazing how often it’s not big enough for all sorts of things.
I think 2 X 60cm ovens make more sense in hindsight and they also dont take as long to heat up
And yet it runs with gas, as if we’re still cavemen cooking meat over open fires.
Its the cheapest ¯\_(ツ) _/¯
What about the old vice grips that are now a permanent part of the stove trick?
Nothing is more permanent than a temporary fix.
Man, all the sinks I’ve seen over the years with vice grip knobs haha.
I wish I had pockets big enough to replace the flimsy Bosch drawers in my fridge that start to shatter as soon as you pull just a tiny bit harder than normal.
There are 3d models for some fridge drawers. I have a Frigidaire with similarly flimsy drawers and found a model for them.
China mastered copying things well. A five pack of replacement knobs that actually match is $34 on Amazon. A crappy homemade knob for a $4000+ range is crazy.
China has also mastered modern slave labor. That someone makes thier own replacement instead of ordering some small uncomplicated part from across the globe isn’t crazy, it’s self-reliant and smart.
But that’s, like, just my opinion man.
I’m sure the prison firefighters out in California are real mad about China mastering modern slave labor
Oh I would go for the OEM part ten times out of ten, especially for such a nice appliance. Instead this person opted to make some plastic waste that will eventually be in the Ocean after we are all long dead.
Completely agree that Amazon garbage is terrible for humanity
I definitely agree that less plastic = better in general. But if you’re going to 3d print stuff, at least this is functional.
And I’m not here to argue. God it is nice to have a civil discussions on social media.
Sorry if I came off as argumentative. That certainly wasn’t my intent.
I was just trying to make the point that this person spent a lot of time and effort to do something subpar with plastic.
You didn’t seem argumentative to me at all. I’m genuinely happy to disagree about something and:
-just have it be civil
-no one takes it personally
-we find things we can agree on
I have a hunch that those knobs are just a thin sheet of metal wrapped around a piece of plastic, which would explain why one of the knobs broke off in the first place.
I could be wrong, just a hunch.
The knobs are “brushed stainless” plated plastic with plastic parts inside. It’s possible Bosch is using higher quality materials, but this is the standard Bosch range knob that goes on all of their ranges, so I suspect it’s made down to a price. They’re injection molded parts that cost about a quarter a piece including parts and labor.
The important parts of the knob are all inside the range. But still can cost as little as about 10 bucks for an OEM part and 15 minutes of repair work if one of those should break.
Makes enough sense. My point was that either printing a replacement or getting the OEM part will use about the same amount of plastic, assuming the printing only takes one attempt.
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And Bosch makes and generally stands by their good products. Yeah they’re a company, but they’re not the worst!
Also, where did original knob go, I need to know.
Some things are better left unknown.
It goes farther than that! The 34$ 5 pack is only that price because its already here in america to be shipped in a day or two. It came from china, where you can order the same thing for 1-5% of the price if you are willing to wait a month to receive it.
I was gonna bitch about it too but the cheaper Bosch ranges use the same knobs. It’s an off the shelf part that Bosch is charging a ridiculous premium for.
How much did the printer and materials cost? Or the time to educate on cad and printing?
Just saying, it was likely far more money and time/effort than merely 12 cents.
Also, aren’t ovens hot? Won’t a 3d printed part melt straight away, or is there some special material?
I don’t think knobs get very hot
Well crap. Here I was hoping my knob would get hot.
Depends on the material. ABS would be a decent material for this application - as long as you have a decent enough setup to scrub / clean the air in the chamber / room.
PLA would have a hard time in that position, PETG might be OK, Nylon may creep after too many heat cycles. Depending on how hot those parts get this is.
Channel locks, adjustable wrench, or plyers are also acceptable. Plus then ya know damned well where they are.
This is why I always buy cheap vice grips whenever I see them in a box of tools at an estate sale or something.
“Oops, I broke a handle on (thing).”
Clamps vice grips on the bit left over
“Fixed it.”
Right now both of the seats in my truck just have a vice grips for the reclining lever.
I had my shower knobs as vice grips for a long while
I just grab the serial number from a recently sold one and file a warranty claim on it.
Little sanding and silver Rub 'n Buff on that print will make it look a lot better and closer match to the rest.
Or even simply moving it to the middle of the set of three for less distraction.
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But what the hell happened to the other knob? I’ve done a lot of stupid shit around the stove but I can’t imagine what could happen to it.
Kids are a force
Wait you have kids and still sink money into crypto shillcoins? 😬
We wanted to fight corporate bailouts too, and it worked out well enough that we could afford to have kids.
Wouldn’t that be susceptible to melting due to oven temps? Or is that probably made from a higher temp filament?
What’s the melting point of the regular filament? You’re supposed to touch the oven knobs it so it’s probably not much higher than 50 degrees.
50 degrees? How do your oven knobs even get that hot? Mine don’t change temperature at all, always room temperature. If your oven knobs get recognizably warmer (yet to spend of 50°) something seems to be awfully wrong with your oven!
They should not be that warm but it’s about the limit of what is comfortable to touch.
The comfortable temperature limit to touch is room temperature because anything higher indicates a broken oven which makes me highly uncomfortable.
50° K?
Hopefully if it’s a decent oven there isn’t that much heat on the outside. I guess if you just left the door open, it might eventually melt
Not really. You can print it out of ABS easily enough if that’s a concern, given that there is a good chance that is what the knob on any given residential range or oven is likely to have been made out of by the factory anyway.
As a matter of fact, since this is directly in my wheelhouse (not that wheelhouse, the other one) vis-a-vis both 3D printing and whitegoods, let’s take a look.
Being in the unique position to be able to do so, I grabbed a knob off of a random smattering of ranges. Here’s what I found from the ones that didn’t require taking them apart further to find the markings or scraping at them with a knife or something (hey, there’s the other wheelhouse):
- Maytag (Whirlpool): Stamped “ABS” on the inside.
- Bosch “Industrial Style” (similar to OP’s): PBT
- Whirlpool: PET
- Verona: ABS
- GE Base Line: ABS
PBT has a pretty similar melting point to ABS at ~235° C. With ABS it’s complicated, but I print ABS at 260° C for what it’s worth. PET is also typically given around 260-270. So these are all pretty similar to each other.
TL;DR: You should be fine with ABS.
Oh sweet, knowing how to use a knife is right up my wheelhouse too!
Depends on the type of filament used and temperatures that are actually present at the knob. I would say no since the temperature required to melt (or warp) the knob would have to be high enough to cause some pretty severe burns if you touched it with your hand. if the knobs on the oven/range are getting that hot, there is a lot more to worry about here than the knob melting.
I was reading some “I am a master shoplifter” threads on Reddit, and honestly I don’t know why people don’t steal more stuff.
I thought they banned the shoplifting subs. No?
They did, it was an AMA.
The two types of players
Edit: Here have a funny youtube video I reminded myself of https://youtu.be/CJpsL3XbD-M
